why is every single AD item better than any comparible AP item

Rozair·Nov 13, 2016·3 votes·561 views

Does nobody else realize this?

30 Comments

ShadòwNov 13, 20165 votes

you've got some pretty convincing arguments there

Critmaster GarenNov 13, 20165 votes

item 3157

ChaddyFantomeNov 13, 20164 votes

item 3116 op item 3022 up

item 3035 and its upgrades only works on bonus armor item 3135 work on all MR.

item 3089 gives u more AP for having AP item 3031 gives u a 20% chance to maybe do more damage but only on auto attacks.

what was that again about u not knowing shit about the game?

RozairNov 13, 20161 votes

Ezreal q can crit Gangplank q and barrels can crit MasterYi q can crit Garen e can crit Fiora crits on her 2nd strike of e XinZhao crits every 3rd auto Shaco crits Tryndamere gets bonus crit Yasuo fucking always crits Ashe always crits

MarshbouyNov 13, 20162 votes

Any mage can land a spell. not every AD champion has built in crit chance. not to mention a % chance is different than trying to land a skillshot or one of the various point and clicks in the game.

RozairNov 13, 20161 votes

item 3035 and its upgrades also have bonus effects and cost less than item 3135 . item 3036 15% bonus damage is a fuckton better than magic pen at that point. Also armor items dont have AP tacked onto them yet there are MR items that have AD tacked onto them. item 3137 item 3156 item 3814

RozairNov 13, 20161 votes

also i agree item 3116 is op on certain champions. Ive said this before on the boards yet riot as a whole are a dumb piece of shit who doesnt listen. No utility item should have that much AP or AD tacked onto it which is what makes MAW broken as hell

JhomasTeffersonNov 13, 20161 votes

The only issue I have with rylais is how many champs it enables a perma slow on.

ChaddyFantomeNov 13, 20161 votes

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and its upgrades also have bonus effects and cost less than . 15% bonus damage is a fuckton better than magic pen at that point.

it isn't 15% onus damage, it ignores 15% of the enemies BONUS armor, which means if the target didn't even build an armor item or has none in there runes and masties it is fuckoign pointless, whereas VoidStaff ignores 35% of ALL MR.

Whats mroe, there is far less MR in the game and champions MR doesn't scale with level whereas Armor DOES.

Also armor items dont have AP tacked onto them yet there are MR items that have AD tacked onto them.

item 3157

Also, call me when every AD item in the game gives them obscene amounts of HP. item 3116 item 3151 item 3027 item 3152 item 3030

RozairNov 13, 20161 votes

item 3036 read the passive. 15% bonus physical damage. Nothing to do with armor. There are certain champions who do have scaling mr per level. And there is a shitton of more MR in the game than armor are you stupid? How often do you even see armor items anymore seriously. Are you playing in wood division?

ChaddyFantomeNov 13, 20161 votes

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read the passive. 15% bonus physical damage.

U and i both know thay we were refering thre LW not LDR in partular. Even then, it is aghainst enemies with a high enough max HP than you....

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There are certain champions who do have scaling mr per level.

Exceptions that prove the rule, genius. Im aware.

And there is a shitton of more MR in the game than armor are you stupid? Apparently u are.

How often do you even see armor items anymore seriously. Are you playing in wood division?

No but apparently u are playing in tinfoil.

ChaddyFantomeNov 13, 20162 votes

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q can crit

No it can't.

q can crit

No it can't.

crits on her 2nd strike of e crits every 3rd auto crits

Which is guaranteed thus making the crit chance pointless.

gets bonus crit

so?

fucking always crits

you don't know what always means.

always crits

as if it matters when her crits dont even deal bonus damage.

in the case of everything else, it still doesn't change the fact that u get a CHANCE to maybe do more damage whereas more AP is consistent and scale son everything u do.

RozairNov 13, 20161 votes

master yi alpha stike can crit. Look it up. It just shows you how much more i know than you. Fiora and xin do crit. Again look it up. jeez your a dumb shit. If you build item 3031 your damage is multiplied. You can also use crit damage runes.

ChaddyFantomeNov 13, 20161 votes

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master yi alpha stike can crit. Look it up.

I like how u are focusing on this one mistake as opposed to literally everything else which u got wrong.

It just shows you how much more i know than you.

what r u 12?

MarshbouyNov 13, 20163 votes

Because they aren't comparable?

Best Kog NANov 13, 20163 votes

Where's the AD form of item 3089 then?

MarshbouyNov 13, 20163 votes

please don't say item 3031 please don't say please don't say please don't say please don't say

Best Kog NANov 13, 20165 votes

Spoiler alert, he's gon say item 3031

MarshbouyNov 13, 20162 votes

Yeah. I forgot that AD scaling shields and utility also scaled off crit i hate this place.

Best Kog NANov 13, 20162 votes

item 3089 gives more ap than item 3031 gives ad.

MarshbouyNov 13, 20163 votes

pfffffffttt whaaaaat? no it doesn't.

GinoSoldierNov 13, 20163 votes

Thing is, as a standard, casting spells is a whole lot safer than AA-ing. As a result, giving the same power to both would make a whole host of mid game mages / AP bruisers / AP supports completely overwhelming while most AD champions are still attempting to build up.

RozairNov 13, 20161 votes

true

RebonackNov 13, 20162 votes

So where's the AD/Armor item comparable to Hourglass?

vampirekid13Nov 13, 20162 votes

because mages blow you up in 2 seconds regardless of items while ADCs nibble at your health over a longer period of time?

JhomasTeffersonNov 13, 20162 votes

Why is it with a full ap build some characters can get up to 1200 ap, but with a full ad build, you can get at most maybe 600 ad? why are there ap items that give 100+ ap, yet the biggest ad items only give 75 ad.

Sona PingNov 13, 20161 votes

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Why is it with a full ap build some characters can get up to 1200 ap, but with a full ad build, you can get at most maybe 600 ad? why are there ap items that give 100+ ap, yet the biggest ad items only give 75 ad.

Because AP ratios exist and a lot of damage is lost in the conversion while said AP champions also frequently are unable to benefit from their AP on 100%AD ratio Auto-attacks. 1AD≠AP.

Also, I don't know about your youtube page but mine keeps trying to get me to watch "800AD Rengar" videos and what not.

JhomasTeffersonNov 14, 20161 votes

my mistake. I was just speaking from personal experience. I main jg, and have done a few champs (kha, shaco, lee sin, maybe one or two others) full ad. Shaco made it the highest because I built ie on him, topping out at about 650 I think after I sold warriors for cleaver I think. the others made It to about 600.

I'm aware that 1 ad=/= 1 ap. But its precisely because of that reason that ap and ad items are slightly different in stats and amounts of said stat they give.

18 NAKED COWB0YSNov 13, 20161 votes

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L Psy KongrooNov 13, 20161 votes

Late game, ADCs do as much damage with a single auto attack than most mages do with a single spell. ADCs can usually autoattack between 1.5 and 2.5 times per second. Mages need to wait at least 4-5 seconds after blowing their combo, which don't even 100-0 anyone at that point because ADCs have item 3046 item 3812 item 3072 item 3026 item 3156 item 3139 (in addition to any peel/shields from the support) to keep them alive.