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in light of the crit changes now i kinda wanna talk about something that happened in 8.11

Dr Dog·2/6/2019, 7:40:29 PM·5 votes·3,099 views

specifically talking about when the bot lane meta was open for everyone, except adcs.

when everyone was harping on adcs for "crying because adcs werent op" and "being afraid of bot lane diversity" i think that showed a lot of bias toward adcs a lot of the playerbase holds and how hypocritical a lot of people are, as of recent ive seen a bit of the same from top laners or mid laners specifically when viktor top was meta and when bruisers invaded mid lane for a certain time and mid laners were mad about that or when top laners were losing their shit over viktor top but the thing is.

where were the lane diversity people then?

people who didnt even play bot lane were super against any adcs getting buffed or anything like that because "its just diversity stop crying" even though there were i think 2 even half decent adcs at the time? anyway my actual point is everyone wants lane diversity till it becomes their problem, people are all for new things till that thing crowds out what they play then they get mad and uproar, truth is people dont actually want diversity in their lane or new roles in their lane either its just an excuse to discredit issues. viktor top WAS a problem and so were bruisers mid and so were adcs not being viable after 8.11. people dont actually want diversity in their roles and thats completely OK

not everything has to change and issues shouldnt be ignored because of "diversity", people speaking out about issues in a role they play isnt usually bias its feedback from someone who plays the role, why would we take say a top laner who doesnt even play mids advice on how fun or healthy the mid lane meta is over people that play the role or main it? just because it doesnt effect your enjoyment doesnt mean it doesnt effect others enjoyment. everyone has the right to have fun in this game and other peoples bias's shouldnt effect balance of a role they dont even play a good recent example of this being the jg changes and how unfun and fucked the jg meta is especially for people that main the role

6 Comments

haaaaaaalp2/7/2019, 4:07:51 AM2 votes

There is a huge difference between top laners asking for victor to be balanced while allowing him to remain top lane and bot laners asking for everything besides marksmen to be removed from bot lane. Marksmen even on 8.11 had a higher pick rate than half of the archetypes in the game.

You would never hear bruiser mains complaining if top lane was 90% bruisers. You would never hear a tank main complaining if top lane was 90% tanks. You would never hear an assassin main complaining if mid lane was 90% assassins. You would hear marksmen mains complaining if anything besides marksmen showed up bot lane.

Hell the adc in 2k17 meme came from marksmen mains complaining even when marksmen were in every game.

Sir Saltarin2/6/2019, 8:08:30 PM1 votes

I can be called a lot of things but hipocryte isn't one when we talk about diversity: I hate it on any role and I've been saying that for a long time.

Camille should be only a Toplaner, Viktor only a Midlaner, Lucian only a Botlane adc, Lulu only a Supp and etc.

And it's not only because I think that those champs are healthier on the role they were supposed to be played, I think that it's also easier to balance for Riot.

Kazekiba2/6/2019, 9:39:17 PM1 votes

I loved it. Viktor top, WK Irelia and Urgot mid, Swain and Ornn bot, junglers Literally anyone as long as they're not Camille this bitch. Bring them all back, let them be meta, let people play their favorite champions in multiple positions.

Also midlane Pyke is a huge problem but Jg or Top is fine. If Pyke JG is meta he's just a bad Kayn or Xin Zhao but if hes mid hes a better Zed

Chembaron Yamada2/7/2019, 1:17:40 AM1 votes

If people want diversity, then they should ask Riot to design champions for this.

Assassins mostly got played in mid lane and jungle (and sometimes top). There were no assassins in bot lane. Now Riot designed an assassin specifically for the support role: Pyke.

This is what we need. People want other classes than marksmen played in bot lane? Then let Riot design bot laners which aren't marksmen. But if a champion that got designed as a solo laner goes bot, yeah, that will most likely cause trouble.