Ekko is really poorly designed

Yenn··8 votes·965 views

26 games with him. Every single mid match up relies on the enemy playing poorly; there is not a single favorable match up. I'd almost go as far as to say most match ups cannot be won unless the enemy is severely underskilled. This entire champion is built around your opponent making huge, glaring mistakes. If they play okay (not even good or great, just okay), you can't really do anything.

Aside from that, his late game is terrible. He cannot even kill a glass cannon APC/ADC unless they're in his Chronoshift, while they can 100 to 0 Ekko in 1-2 seconds, compared to the 4 seconds it takes for his Chronoshift to get into position. He dies before he can use it, which leaves him at the mercy of the enemy playing poorly and walking into it.

Even if I land a stun on an enemy carry as full build glass cannon, it doesn't matter, because they'll get out and kill me before my Chronoshift gets close enough to finish them.

While the concept is cool, it doesn't really work in practice. A champion that's based on your opponents playing like they belong in Silver V and stealing kills is not well designed. This is another blatant example of a designer going 'Hey, let's use this super cool idea with no consideration for how it will fit into the game.'

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Legendairee4 votes

seems like the lack in skill is on your part. Ive played 7 games with him and if youre positioning is good and you all in when appropriate (basic LoL concepts) you can kill or put a huge hurt on a squishy (basic assassin principles)

Yenn1 votes

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seems like the lack in skill is on your part. Ive played 7 games with him and if youre positioning is good and you all in when appropriate (basic LoL concepts) you can kill or put a huge hurt on a squishy (basic assassin principles)

And then level 6 hits and they unload their combo on me with Ignite, dropping me to 10-20% health, not including any harass I take while trying to last hit, and their minion wave wailing on me as I pull minion aggro.

But don't worry, I have Chronoshi-- Jk, it healed for nothing because I was Ignited.

But hey, at least I chunked 40% of that Annie's health with my Q + E + passive combo.

Legendairee2 votes

youre complaining about annie burst on an assassin. talk to zed, lb or anyone. at least you survived. Ekko isnt a insta-win pick like you and many other believe him to be. just play smarter

Yenn1 votes

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youre complaining about annie burst on an assassin. talk to zed, lb or anyone. at least you survived. Ekko isnt a insta-win pick like you and many other believe him to be. just play smarter

Ekko loses to almost every mid. Annie is just an example of a burst caster; any other burst caster can do the same thing, poke mages can keep him out of range, pure assassins out-damage him, and whatever's left out-sustains him.

Z Statistic2 votes

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and their minion wave wailing on me as I pull minion aggro.

That's entirely your fault. If their minions are a threat, then don't pull aggro and plan around it accordingly. Besides, if they are a threat to you, then yours are a threat to the enemy.

Yenn1 votes

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and their minion wave wailing on me as I pull minion aggro.

That's entirely your fault. If their minions are a threat, then don't pull aggro and plan around it accordingly. Besides, if they are a threat to you, then yours are a threat to the enemy.

Except spells don't draw minion aggro.

If I go to last hit against Annie, I eat a free Q to the face. If I try to trade with Annie, I eat her full combo and draw minion aggro. I lose either way; I can't farm, I can't harass, and I can't kill her.

Z Statistic1 votes

You start with Flask+3, only go in to last hit, if she Qs you, then return with your own Q, if she is holding onto stun, only use your Q to farm, zone and a bunch of other things really.

If you were playing Pantheon, I'd get it. His Q is outranged by hers. But you're not. You're playing Ekko, whose Q has a 1075 range from edge vs Annie whose Q is 625 from center. Your Q outranges hers by like 550. How the hell are you not poking her down with Q? It even deals more damage than her Q.

You don't trade with basic attacks as melee vs ranged except on a few exceptions like Fizz. You poke with ranged spells and then commit in melee. Like, I'm still trying to wrap my mind around the fact that you're trying to use basic attacks to TRADE and completely ignoring your ridiculously hard hitting, long ranged Q.

Old Man Teeto4 votes

Yenn hasn't played a game since February on that account.

TheHobbits1 votes

I happy to hear you have mastered the new champion in 26 games. Truly you are a god amongst us. Teach us your ways #LC$bigplayz.

Mat7itan1 votes

I haven't lost lane with him yet. I struggled in a mirror match (still ended up winning lane kind of heavily), but I have never been good at mirror matches.

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