Soooo where are the fixes to Dynamic Queue?

Photos of Ghosts··4 votes·298 views

Riot said over and over that they don't want to split focus and resources by bringing back Solo Q at least for now (aka for this season at this point?). Which is why they're putting all of their energy into fixing the problems of matchmaking, 5 men premades against 5 solos, fill=support, queue lengths, etc. right?

Right?

Where are the improvements?

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alasarcher1 votes

Pls show me 2 games in your last 20 games history where 5 solos played against 5 premade?

Photos of Ghosts1 votes
  • Riot said you should have the same number of people in premades on both sides approximately 90% of the time
  • 5 solos against 5 premade is the worst possible combination
  • if the perfect case should happen at least 9 times out of 10, if the worst case happens even just 1 time out of 100 it's already disgusting.
alasarcher1 votes

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  • Riot said you should have the same number of people in premades on both sides approximately 90% of the time
  • 5 solos against 5 premade is the worst possible combination
  • if the perfect case should happen at least 9 times out of 10, if the worst case happens even just 1 time out of 100 it's already disgusting.

Again as i said, can u show me in your match history games where there were unbalanced premades?

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Not in mine, but here on the Boards you can find many.

DeathBurst1 votes

Many as like, 10 or so every day? Do you know how many games of LoL are played every day? Hint: a lot more than 10,000...

Photos of Ghosts1 votes

Hint: a lot less of one person per game knows what the boards are.

DeathBurst1 votes

Still, even if you take into accounts only the persons on the boards, that's an awful lot more than 10,000 games per day, I'll bet my hat on that.

Among all the problems you stated:

  • The lack of support is a real problem, yes, very true, but it's the only one.
  • Queue length is not another problem, it's just a direct consequence of the lack of supports. And it has nothing to do with DynQ, whatever the propaganda on these boards would like you to believe.
  • Premades ruining games for solo is, at worse, a hugely over-reported problem. More probably, it's just a (bad) pretext used by SoloQ-ers propagandists, and doesn't exist at all, it's just generic toxicity, nothing to do with premades. But it's so easy to take a bad game with toxic players and blame it on DynQ to advance your agenda...

So yes, I can go behind you and support (pun intended) your demand for a better Champ Select algorithm. But the rest of your post is just bullsh*t, pardon my language.

alasarcher1 votes

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Not in mine, but here on the Boards you can find many.

Because "premades" or "dynamic queue" is another excuse for being bad player.

DeathBurst1 votes

While I agree with you Alasarcher regarding premade, OP is right about fill=support.

We're still waiting on a smarter algorithm about primary/secondary so that we can start again to put support as secondary and not get it 90% of the time. I for one mained Support in S4, and during S5 I mained Top and was Jung/Sup secondary. I completely stopped playing Sup in the new Champ Select, and always queue as Top/Jung, never Top/Sup. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one, and this only increases the lack of Support which was causing the issue to begin with, it's a Vicious circle.

alasarcher1 votes

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While I agree with you Alasarcher regarding premade, OP is right about fill=support.

We're still waiting on a smarter algorithm about primary/secondary so that we can start again to put support as secondary and not get it 90% of the time. I for one mained Support in S4, and during S5 I mained Top and was Jung/Sup secondary. I completely stopped playing Sup in the new Champ Select, and always queue as Top/Jung, never Top/Sup. I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one, and this only increases the lack of Support which was causing the issue to begin with, it's a Vicious circle.

Well fill works as intended tbh. Its based on supply and demand. It supplies most needed resource, which is support.

DeathBurst1 votes

That's not what I said. Fill is fine. Primary/Secondary is not fine. It's ok that you are assigned support when you fill. It's not OK that putting fill as secondary means you're filling (and so play support) 90% of the time.

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