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Master Yi? Just CC him.

Crispy0Snake··28 votes·10,797 views

I did it NA boards. You all said it couldn't be done. I saw Master Yi and locked in Alistar. There's nothing Yi can do if I just use my abilities. I also took exhaust because it guts his dps

On a real note though you can put Yi in a real catch 22 as Alistar. If he runs to melee of your ADC without using Q, you W him. He HAS to alpha this because he wants to alpha your combo. You hold your Q, he'll come out of alpha and then the knockup is free. OR he takes the W, at which point he has to Q back into range anyway and he eats the knockup either way

Knocking an enemy into a thick wall as alistar will guarantee the full knockback time, and you'll be in range to pulverise, so you can chain your cc so that it lasts a little longer than just the standard WQ combo. I did that to Yi one fight too, gave our mid enough time to get out of his Q range and combo him

But yeah Yi is a joke champion and if you see him you just need to get your CC on him, and then watch him die easy

58 Comments

General Esdeath 18 votes

That's cheating you have TWO CC SPELLS

Just the Lip10 votes

username checks out.

Handy Sandy 9 votes

but if you DON'T have cc............

gg lol

Bârd2 votes

That's not really a Yi thing, though.

If your comp has no CC you will get destroyed by most comps unless you steamroll them.

MysticShaker7 votes

Use CC on him and his teammates will finish his job for him. This game is 5v5. Not 5vYi

CasterGilgamesh4 votes

OP telling us to use all the cc we can to shut down one champion then let his team finish us off [sg-miss-fortune]

AeroWaffle2 votes

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OP telling us to use all the cc we can to shut down one champion then let his team finish us off [sg-miss-fortune]

Then technically that statement would apply to any champion that Alistar decides to use his CC on. Since you're going to use the CC on somebody, what better target than the squishy that's trying to kill your carry?

CasterGilgamesh3 votes

yi is not the only member of the team though, what if they have an MF who ults. now we cant use ali CC since we need to stop yi. the biggest flaw in the argument of "Just CCing yi" is that either yi kills you are his whole team now is free to kill you since you needed to unload all that CC on him.That is a huge amount of late game pressure for just one champion.Also Yi can actually dodge CC with Alpha Stike and he gets Slow Immunity so its even harder to hit him.

AeroWaffle4 votes

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yi is not the only member of the team though, what if they have an MF who ults. now we cant use ali CC since we need to stop yi. the biggest flaw in the argument of "Just CCing yi" is that either yi kills you are his whole team now is free to kill you since you needed to unload all that CC on him.That is a huge amount of late game pressure for just one champion.Also Yi can actually dodge CC with Alpha Stike and he gets Slow Immunity so its even harder to hit him.

Alistar is not the only member on your team either. Yi is melee so he'll be right at minimum range, and if the only target the Alistar's range allies want to attack is the Yi they can safely disengage to a distance that all of Yi's team wont be able to have easy access to (except for Alistar).

Alistar should be able to out-tank Yi in the situation where all of Alistar's team is attacking Yi and the only target that Yi's team can attack is Alistar. Out tank him by a long shot, since there are several champions that can basically one shot Yi while he's stuck in a CC.

Positioning is just as important as the CC.

Crispy0Snake1 votes

As Alistar you absolutely have to peel Yi off of your carries, hopefully your jungler will be doing something useful in the fight too

Otherwise better team wins and there's not much to be done

Ahri Baka6 votes

Well. You were Ali Literally the Best champion when it comes to CC and can always shut down fed champions What am I supposed to do if I'm playing something else ? Only Lulu feels like she can handle Yi , but not always Others can't Especially Root Users like Lux Zyra Neeko He just Presses W lol

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

lol even Lulu will struggle against yi since he can legit kill your adc before the polymorph hits him or even better he dodges it with Alpha strike [zombie-nunu-bummed]

Ahri Baka2 votes

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lol even Lulu will struggle against yi since he can legit kill your adc before the polymorph hits him or even better he dodges it with Alpha strike [zombie-nunu-bummed]

Yes , and he can just buy Qss lmao

Crescent Dusk1 votes

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lol even Lulu will struggle against yi since he can legit kill your adc before the polymorph hits him or even better he dodges it with Alpha strike [zombie-nunu-bummed]

No lol. If Yi kills an ADC in a single alpha strike, then you fed the Yi and your own jungler didn't pick something like a Xin Zhao/Khazix/Rengar/Lee Sin/Reksai to bully him early into irrelevance.

If you let the Yi just passively farm all game long, that's on you. You screwed up just like you would if you allowed Vladimir to free farm without poking him out of lane with something like an Azir/Zed/Orianna/Syndra.

Crispy0Snake1 votes

Lulu is really weak right now, all of her abilities are dumpster tier, and pro's now just put 3 points in her E to get through lane then max W asap to just be a brainless buff bot...

If Lulu can't do really well in lane just by maxing Q... something is really wrong with her lane presence, just screams damage limitation

Why would you pick Lulu and try to patch the holes in a sinking ship when you can play a ship that floats (like Janna/Karma)

Also Lulu had her day for years, I'm glad she's finally in the gutter

ShadWooo1 votes

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lol even Lulu will struggle against yi since he can legit kill your adc before the polymorph hits him or even better he dodges it with Alpha strike [zombie-nunu-bummed]

Was playing Lulu mid. Was low under tower trying recall after killing enemy mid. He comes to dive me, I have mana, cooldowns, all abilities, flash and barier. So knowing he will start with Q to close the gap and dodge first tower shot, I hold with W (polymorph) so he can't dodge it. So I use E on myself so he cannot oneshot me and wait fo him to come closer because he didn't start with Q on me, the moment he makes the aa animation on me I use W on him. Nope. He used Q and dodged it. After he re-appeared he was not polymorphed and despite I used barrier and ult to knock him up and then flash away he still killed me and canceled last shot that would kill him with flash.

Later in game, he comes at us I use polymorph he uses Q and when he reappears he is polymorphed but he still using autoattacks and take quadra...

So yes Lulu is not the champ.

Timeless Izaya2 votes

Oh my Lulu, I sometimes build Tank-Lulu. Yi don't say anything to me then. Because he'll attack me, and until he realizes I'm building tank, he's wasting his basic attacks on me.

That W from Lulu is so beautiful. But it doesn't slow him if he's ulting, and I be mad seeing that bunny rabbit moving extra fast. LoL!!

But there are times I fail. He'll Q, and instead of clicking him, I'll W myself. That's when the tears stream down my face.

Eonslegacy1 votes

He wont even be smart enough to take cutdown and conqueror, before the game, because its a lulu, GENIUS*[slayer-pantheon-rainbows]*

JuiceBoxP1 votes

His w is actually disgusting. He can tank a full late game combo and come out with 80%

AHarmlessTaco3 votes

Nautilus Would like a word with you. He has 4 CC effects compared to Alistar's measly 3. :D

Eonslegacy1 votes

And he cant even be edge of knight/alpha ed either. since his 3rd cc doesnt have that 3 second start up time, and his 4th is GARUNTEED to force out the alpha.

Eonslegacy1 votes

Yi is a tanky boi base stat wise, after the first 6 levels that also has good dueling potential. the easiest way to "deal" with master yi, is to play something with straight up DEATH immunity. Kindred, Taric, and such, OR something with MASSIVE disengage. Something like nami would be a great example. Another pick is something that can let yi kill his main target, but instead, kill yi right after, Morgana/brand/malz/anivia are good examples of this. Anivia is probably the best anti Yi champion in the game, for Peel purposes. Her WALL is probably the single best way to stop yi from jumping your adc. If yi alphas the adc, place wall between adc and yi after he spawns otherwise put wall down preventing yis alpha :D

Baron Barian5 votes

People complain about how everyone only says something like "just cc him" as an answer. Funny enough, it's because people seriously don't use cc when they're suppose to. Like...at all. Ever.

LetMeAfkPlss19 votes

they do or at least try to but you'd be surprised by how much bs yi can dodge with his alpha strike

IainG101 votes

There is nothing more soul destroying that watching a skilled Yi (that's a relative term, not an absolute one) Alpha Strike over that perfectly aimed skillshot that also happens to be your only CC ability...

Hence why things like Ali's W or Morg R are so dangerous to him: untargetable doesn't break the channel on him

LetMeAfkPlss1 votes

Ik that alpha strike is bs and being a tank doesn't matter half of the times because of conq rageblade his e and q crits you might even melt before your cc ticks

Need Gold 4 Tent1 votes

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There is nothing more soul destroying that watching a skilled Yi (that's a relative term, not an absolute one) Alpha Strike over that perfectly aimed skillshot that also happens to be your only CC ability...

Hence why things like Ali's W or Morg R are so dangerous to him: untargetable doesn't break the channel on him

A skilled/lucky Yi can disjoint an Ali W (eating the W during the cast time of Alpha which is uninterruptible, so effectively wasting it despite not actually dodging it). You can see this in action by getting hooked by a Blitz on purpose while spamming Q on something, in that time before the power fist hits, you start the cast time of Q so you get knocked up and disappear into alpha while being knocked up. Just like magic.

But yea, there's a knockup waiting for him after he reappears if he uses it that way. With Morg R, he gets stunned in Alpha but he softcounters it by being able to quickly run out and back in due to being immune to the slow.

Glaricion1 votes

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they do or at least try to but you'd be surprised by how much bs yi can dodge with his alpha strike

tfw you lock in Lulu just for this purpose, but he dodges your poly w/ a Q reset

Kalikain3 votes

Exactly

LetMeAfkPlss3 votes

those are bad yi's holy moly you easily convinced naive people ,people are complaining about the yi mains who would heal like shit and alpha strike everything at perfect frames those are the scary ones that give yi a bad reputation

it's not like cc'ing is a new concept really but people fail to cc the good yi's who dodge everything and that's on yi's bs kit to blame since there's no way to cancel an alpha strike that i know of

do you know why? exactly because he's untargetable

THE HAPPY PUPPY5 votes

After the alpha he's no longer untargetable

D357R0Y3R3 votes

name checks out

AHarmlessTaco3 votes

Uh, fun fact, exhaust is really bad vs Yi. With his ult he ignores attack speed / movement speed debuffs. Js

Illabethe3 votes

You do realize the only reason this works is because Alistar = Charge up aoe CC? Alpha Strike doesn't make Yi immune to charge up aoe CC.

It DOES counter nearly every single skill shot CC in the game, and he usually will get a QSS, because you have to play chicken with him to use it. If you use it, he will Alpha strike. If you don't use it, he'll just keep auto attacking.

This is why people generally think the "just CC him" advice is ludicrous. Yi counters nearly every single skill shot CC in the game, making the pool of champions capable of pulling it off a much smaller group.

What generally ends up killing Yi is 1 second nuke combos, not CC. A fed Miss fortune will blow him up. A fed Caitlyn will nearly 1 shot him. A Morgana or Nami or Zyra attempting to CC is a joke (Nami has to take a hit first to secure his landing position behind her on Alpha; Morgana cannot survive long enough to either R or Q and generally has to take hits before she can Q. Zyra..... Yi will just alpha strike over your E if you try to use it. If he manages to Alpha strike YOU, you're dead; you pretty much have to self cast your entire kit while he's in the air to make R hit, so that she can get out of there when he gets knocked up.)

Troy2426212 votes

Pretty much anyone with multiple forms of CC does the job.

Basically I'm saying tanks but inexplicably people don't enjoy playing them.

CasterGilgamesh2 votes

inb4 the enemy picks Morgana Kayle or picks other huge threat champions to distract you from yi

LuaDotExe2 votes

As a Yi main holy frick thank you. I play a lotta divers, and Champions with powerful CC are the reason my ban list typically excludes any kind of DPS Champions (Alistar is my default amt).

DontLewdOrianna2 votes

Just cc isnt counterplay.

Mavëríck2 votes

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I did it NA boards. You all said it couldn't be done. I saw Master Yi and locked in Alistar. There's nothing Yi can do if I just use my abilities. I also took exhaust because it guts his dps

On a real note though you can put Yi in a real catch 22 as Alistar. If he runs to melee of your ADC without using Q, you W him. He HAS to alpha this because he wants to alpha your combo. You hold your Q, he'll come out of alpha and then the knockup is free. OR he takes the W, at which point he has to Q back into range anyway and he eats the knockup either way

Knocking an enemy into a thick wall as alistar will guarantee the full knockback time, and you'll be in range to pulverise, so you can chain your cc so that it lasts a little longer than just the standard WQ combo. I did that to Yi one fight too, gave our mid enough time to get out of his Q range and combo him

But yeah Yi is a joke champion and if you see him you just need to get your CC on him, and then watch him die easy

I've played Yi so much, it's honestly this, you bait his Q and then fuck him up. Most Yi's like to use Alpha to chase and don't save it. Those that save it do better yes, but you can still look for it and exploit the window.

JuiceBoxP2 votes

Dude that's not fair... alistar has ppoint click cc... yi can't dodge it

Timeless Izaya1 votes

As Soraka I like placing her E in range to where he has to run through the entire E, and out of it to reach the ADC. And some Yi's do it. Sometimes we wreck him due to him being silence, and you know some people just sit there in the E as if it's not doing anything. That E is pretty strong. It's as strong as her Q, but it hits twice with the same amount of damage.

I'll miss Soraka's click-to-hit E. That stopped everything. Guaranteed silence every 10 seconds. That was so beautiful.

GodlyBane1 votes

thats why as a jgler, if i see enemy team has 4 locks, all of which have slows or silences, bitch you know im playing yi

Eonslegacy1 votes

So what stops yi from just not going after the adc and instead killing alistar? Then alpha striking the adc.

AeroWaffle5 votes

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So what stops yi from just not going after the adc and instead killing alistar? Then alpha striking the adc.

Then Alistar doesn't even have to gap-close before using his Pulverize. Or just stack up the Trample stun since Yi is being kind and is face checking the hard CC king.

Crispy0Snake2 votes

To kill Alistar he has to be in melee range, and kill Alistar through his ultimate. That means that Alistar can just knock Yi up and Yi just dies as soon as he gets knocked up (often)

Eonslegacy2 votes

Yis base stats are much higher than you realise. Yi and champions like Yi rarely ever "explode". If they are at that point in the game, they are already going to lose. Tanks arent meta rn for a reason.

Eonslegacy1 votes

Alpha strike the W, flash the q, congrats Yi 100/0 alistar before his E goes off. Or my favorite, edge of knight, right click alister = profit nothing destroys a tank like a 18 second cd spell shield with appropriate runes.

Neopolıtan1 votes

I dunno about you but i think it's hilarious picking Fiddlesticks into an enemy Yi and seeing him run away at the speed of light as soon as you press Q on top of him

Morticianjohn1 votes

Blind pick and ARAM is where Master yi can be such a pain. When you're trying to CC him with Ori, Vlad, Mundo, twitch, and Braum or some team comp like that. Sure most teams will have some CC (Braum ult, Ori ult in this case) but landing that CC is extremely difficult especially since there are 4 enemy players besides Master Yi to worry about.

Wublerdude1 votes

See, a real Yi player would have targeted you, ;)

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