True damage

Rozair··4 votes·433 views

So I'm a bit upset at how easy it is to ignore armor right now. Vayne Fiora and yi just completely bypass armor. The purpose of armor is to mitigate damage. It doesn't give you damage ( unless your taric or malph). So by buying cloth armor you gain 10 armor but the person your fighting buys long sword gaining 10 damage. The damage will be mitigated. That makes sense. True damage however is countered by health. Even Thornmail is useless to champions with true damage. There is nothing that stops that damage and only very few champions have true damage and if you notice they are played constantly practically every game. I think that any champion that deals true damage should be changed to normal damage except for ahri and Olaf. Vayne needs a nerf. Everyone is saying it. Fiora clearly nerds a nerf. Yi is just yi. But taking true damage out of equation would solve the balance problem riot ignores.

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Rebonack1 votes

Many Fighters and Strikers (and some of the Juggernauts, too) have either true damage, %HP damage, resist shred, or some combination there-of because its the easiest way to give them a damage advantage over Rangers without simply going ape-shit on their raw numbers. Giving them huge amounts of free stats and massive base/scaling physical damage so that they can be a threat against hard targets means they turn soft ones into a fine red mist.

Giving them abilities that allow them to invalidate defense, however, means that their damage can still be solid without having to over-inflate the raw numbers.

N0rth Wind1 votes

I disagree.

I dislike Vayne but her true damage is a minimal portion of her output, Vayne indeed does stupid damage right now but it's not the W that's causing it. Check your death recap, W is barely 400 damage while her physical damage is often 2000+. Don't complain about something because everyone's doing it. Vayne is an issue, yes, but the true damage QQ is just people who rely on stats and not mechanics.

Fiora must (and will) definitely keep hers-- it's who she is: if she gets fed she can 4 shot any enemy, regardless of if they have 2.000 or 2.000.000 HP. That's her niche. If you can reliably hit the enemy Vitals, every single enemy in the game will be dead in 1-5 strikes.

Yi's true damage is part of his late-game reward: you let him get fed, now watch your entire team melt.

Other champions have tankbuster mechanics as well, why not complain about those? Gangplank and his true damage/arpen barrels, Garen with his %HP true damage and his true ulti against the VIllain, KogMaw and his %HP magic damage per hit from afar, Malzahar who can reach 70+% HP in 5 seconds with his W if fed, Yasuo --who needs tweaks imo-- but still is a decent tankbuster (even though it's not his niche, although it should be)... there are a lot of champions who can melt you if armor/MR is all you rely on.

And that's good.

I PREACHER I1 votes

Implying that building to counter certain enemy champions isn't a game mechanic Mfw

N0rth Wind1 votes

Sure it is. It just doesn't work with everyone.

And that's good.

This game requires more than itemization skills.

Caytheles1 votes

You just like this mechanic because you were tired of people building better making your champion useless. see? i can follow your posts too... and they all are about (this champ isnt op, their kit is healthy) ... get off the boards.

N0rth Wind1 votes

Yeah, because buying armor against my adc is the level of skill that I lack in Silver, huh?

Like, it takes more skill to build a stat than to actually defend Vitals, dodge Decimates and sidestep Chronobreaks.

Ayyyy armor now top tier mechanic boiz, activating Rammus' W against carry is MLG tactics

Rozair1 votes

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Yeah, because buying armor against my adc is the level of skill that I lack in Silver, huh?

Like, it takes more skill to build a stat than to actually defend Vitals, dodge Decimates and sidestep Chronobreaks.

Ayyyy armor now top tier mechanic boiz, activating Rammus' W against carry is MLG tactics

You can't dodge an auto attack

N0rth Wind1 votes

Agreed- but that doesn't make armor more skillful.

Frius1 votes

fiora 1.5k true damage ult + healing vayne 300 basic 700 true damage or 800 basic 1.4k true damage thats how death recap looks

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