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people REALLY think the new fiora is actually bad?

Rustling Bush··5 votes·2,157 views

if your going to state all the bad thing, atleast mention some of the good things like how she now does %true hp and it hurts like hell everytime she gets her passive off, especially early game, her q has more utility then just point and click, it prioritizes vital spots and you can use it to dash through small walls, or as a boost to engage or escape. i guess they could buff her r by making it 3 vitals instead of 4 but her old r was click r, become invulnerable, do alot of damage, heal up in the process, thats not fun to play against at all, it was cancer. her new ult isn't meant to be used by herself anyways, i've notice the most time shes been able to pull it off was with the lock down of a team member, and it can do up to 127% true hp damage from a full build fiora, any monster tank Nasus Gnar Amumu Rammus Darius Garen Irelia Shen will curl into a ball in cry. i mean its pretty self evident when its suppose to passively heal a team member as well.

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TheDangerousTaco3 votes

The only complaints I see about the old fiora was her ult. Using your logic, the old fiora had lots of counter play.. but were here to talk about the new fiora :P so lets not get into that.

Honeslty the new fiora is good ( on paper ) vs tanks. But in game, procing all 4 vitals takes insane timing. In the this current meta, all tanks have high ad scaling ( which fiora does not ) so her True damage looks really good. ( everyone keeps thinking it does amazing dmg ) but in reality, you die before its worth mentioning..

Lets talk about late game for a second.. Question for you. What do you do about late game where your in a team fight.. Jinx has a full build. And you ult her? Do you think you can kill her before she kills you?
What if you ult the tank and there Team FF's you? Who will do more dmg? What if your ult is used for a peel, do you think you can live long enough to kill the tank, within 8secs before he destroys your carry? or you?

These are the questions I asked, and after playing a few games with her.. the answer is no.. not really :/ without her True Damage she has no damage.. So that is not alone and good enough reasons to say she can destroy tanks..

Remember, in order to achieve 127% true damage you need to go FULL AD. ... and by doing so.. that defeats the purpose of her not dying instantly in fights.. a well fed tank can easily do more damage to a fiora with or without her passive / ult.

Overall, Fiora like any other champion, always looks OP If there fed and ahead. But if the score is even.. I can guarantee you she falls off heavier then any other champion, mid - late game.

conclusion: The damage in fioras kits revolves around her passive, and they made sure her passive took a lot of skill to proc. So the true question is, Why should a champion require so much effort... to do the same / less damage as another champion?

Julius Evola1 votes

It' not a matter of how much skill you have. It's the matter of whether your opponent LETS you proc the vitals. if the enemies are bots then Fiora can hit the vitals. Otherwise, they might have deleted the character and pissed off less of their player base on this one.

TheDangerousTaco1 votes

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It' not a matter of how much skill you have. It's the matter of whether your opponent LETS you proc the vitals. if the enemies are bots then Fiora can hit the vitals. Otherwise, they might have deleted the character and pissed off less of their player base on this one.

Truer words have never been more said.. Like unless my enemy is bad, I cant proc it, cause they all have some range or speed buff ablity to hit minions, escape, then comeback when its out of range for me. and If you cant proc her passive when you need too, she cant trade. That's the flaw, without her passive she becomes a sitting duck that cant do damage or trade back :/

Julius Evola1 votes

Procing the passive isn't bad in lane. But when you ult someone they get a huge Duck-Duck-Goose circle around them and they just run away.

TheDangerousTaco1 votes

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Procing the passive isn't bad in lane. But when you ult someone they get a huge Duck-Duck-Goose circle around them and they just run away.

Lmao, its like "Tag your it" but they still run anyway XD

LordGeovanni2 votes

how do tanks (most of which are ap and dont even build ad when they are ad) have better scaleings than fiora

Cowgirl Ed3 votes

Her ult not only is retarded gameplay wise, but also thematically wise

Phife2 votes

her ult does zero damage.

DropFill1 votes

Her early damage is terrible. Her passive deals nearly no damage early on. New fiora is bad, and people who say she is not only says " she need skill now bla bla bla " instead of having a actual conversation. Her ult is terrible for dueling, her W cd is way too high, her E steroid is terrible, her passive early on deals no damage and her ult is a glorified passive.

MasterSomething1 votes

A: She is a late game item dependent champion. Of course she won't be "godlike" at levels 1-3. However, her E does do some surprise burst due to the crit. B: That's because SHE ACTUALLY TAKES A LOT OF FUCKING SKILL NOW. And even has incorporated the basics of the game, such as positioning. C: Her ult CHUNKS. If you have trouble keeping with your opponent, use your E or Frozen Mallet. D: Her W is high because it blocks ALL CC AND DAMAGE. That's pretty damn OP. E: Her E is now more for utility than just using it to get a mini-Yi ult.

Seriously, she is a lot of fun now, not to mention that if you do well (which you should if you are playing Fiora, she takes skill now) you are rewarding with a very strong duelist that can ruin anyone she comes across (except Kennen, screw his ult >.<).

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