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Why does Lulu need 7 abilities?

KillerShim··2 votes·1,306 views

I cannot even play anything oppressive against this champion because she flat out removes me from the game COMPLETELY for a solid 2.5 seconds. I cannot flash away, cannot use abilities, cannot even auto attack. At this point, I seriously don't understand how it's not classified as a stun. Yes, I can walk away at like 50 ms, that's not the fucking point though. Get this though, in the same ability, she can use it be oppressive and give her ADC bonus attack speed, and bonus movement which also has AP scaling. If that's not enough, lets give her the option of shielding her ADC, and also give them bonus on hit damage, as well as giving her the option of casting it on an enemy, doing damage, and GRANTING TRUE SIGHT ON ENEMIES FOR 5 WHOLE SECONDS. This ability also correlates with her Q, which has to be the biggest fucking deception of a hitbox indicator in my life btw, which slows for 80% for 2 damn seconds.

Now lets get into her ultimate, which is the biggest cockblock to any oppressive threat in the god damn game. It knocks enemies back into the air, it applies a 30/45/60% AOE slow and gives them 300/450/600 (+50% of her total AP) BONUS heath. Hey, might I add that it's only on a 80 second cooldown, not even factoring 40% CDR which is obtainable with item 3504 item 3107 item 3158 and Transcendence, so it'll be on a 32 second cooldown.

I swear to god, everytime I see Lulu locked in on the enemy team, I just want to quit the game. It's so bullshit to play against, her W "polymorph" is equivalent to Taric and Sion's old E's, so what makes her any different? It's a point and click "I removed you from the game" button.

Please get rid of this rat from my game please.

If you reply with "she has a 49% winrate", im going to report your comment for offensive because your damaging my brain cells with stupidity.

29 Comments

ZephyrDrake4 votes

7 abilities... with that logic there are champions that have 10 if not more abilities

KillerShim1 votes

Explain to me how she doesn't have 7 abilities then.

Her w has 2 separate uses, as well as her e. They both do completely different things, and change her playstyle. She can either be highly aggressive, or insanely defensive.

Find me another champion that can do that.

Jamaree3 votes

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Explain to me how she doesn't have 7 abilities then.

Her w has 2 separate uses, as well as her e. They both do completely different things, and change her playstyle. She can either be highly aggressive, or insanely defensive.

Find me another champion that can do that.

Karma ?

KillerShim1 votes

Her Q has 2 different uses? Her E has 2 different uses? Her W has 2 different uses?

No, they just amplify the ability, not 2 separate abilities.

Jamaree3 votes

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Her Q has 2 different uses? Her E has 2 different uses? Her W has 2 different uses?

No, they just amplify the ability, not 2 separate abilities.

OH, you mean that can be used on both ally AND enemy, kk, thought you meant that can be used in two different manners.

KillerShim1 votes

Oh my bad if I didn't make that clear.

Yes, I meant that she can use the same ability in 2 different manners.

OtterlyLost2 votes

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Explain to me how she doesn't have 7 abilities then.

Her w has 2 separate uses, as well as her e. They both do completely different things, and change her playstyle. She can either be highly aggressive, or insanely defensive.

Find me another champion that can do that.

Elise, Jayce, Nidalee.

KillerShim1 votes

Elise doesn't go from defensive to offensive, her play style remains the same. Jayce remains offensive through both forms, as well as Nidalee.

Of course, there can be specific situations like Elise E to get away, but she can also use it to gap close. Same thing with Lulu, she can use her W to play offensively, but also has the option of removing a player from the fucking game entirely.

Also, those are forms. Lulu doesn't have a "form" cooldown, she gets to decide what she wants to do in the same form.

OtterlyLost3 votes

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Elise doesn't go from defensive to offensive, her play style remains the same. Jayce remains offensive through both forms, as well as Nidalee.

Of course, there can be specific situations like Elise E to get away, but she can also use to gap close. Same thing with Lulu, she can use her W to play offensively, but also has the option of removing a player from the fucking game entirely.

Also, those are forms. Lulu doesn't have a "form" cooldown, she gets to decide what she wants to do in the same form.

Elise's E is defensive; technically, in human form, her caccoon is also defensive and can also be used to remove someone from the game.

Jayce has a knock back in his melee form and a speed up in his ranged form, both considerally pretty defensive.

All of Nidalee's mobility is actually wrapped up in her cougar form and the playstyle between cougar and human changes pretty drastically. One is a diving assassin and the other is a poke mage.

Lulu is not the only champion in the game that has multiple abilities. She is, however, one of the only ones in the game that has to choice which affect she's going to use at any given time, unlike the others who have separate CDs for all 6 of their different abilities.

KillerShim1 votes

Well in this logic, anything in the fucking game can be used as a defensive mechanism as long as it has some sort of CC and mobility, which I find to be idiotic. You're giving me VERY specific circumstances.

I guess Renekton's W is a defensive spell as well as Malz R.

Colton1472 votes

Lulu is a very mechanically intensive champion and has a high skill ceiling.

She's been gutted with her nerf and is badly in need of buffs.

49% win rate: http://na.op.gg/champion/lulu/statistics/support

KillerShim2 votes

is a very mechanically intensive champion and has a high skill ceiling.

You're trolling, right? She has 1 skill shot, which is very forgiving btw, and 6 point and click abilities. Where is the "High skill ceiling"?

MetaVolca2 votes

This is satire, right?

She's the second least mechanically intensive support to play next to Janna.

KillerShim2 votes

No, this guy has been known to disagree with everything I say.

ZackTheWaffleMan3 votes

Ha! Ha! Colton's at it again.

KillerShim2 votes

LOL

Festing2 votes

Could either of you qq anymore?

KillerShim1 votes

Low effort comments aren't going to be taken seriously.

IcyPepper2 votes

Seven? At most, she has six I guess, but unlike several more better examples those share the same cooldown which better gates it. She has options, sure, but she can't spam seven abilities in a row in a single rotation, especially since she runs on mana and will quickly go OOM early game even if she could.

hi ìm groot2 votes

HahahahahAHAHAHAaHaahahahaahahaha, ohh man. I did not imagine seeing a lulu bitch post in this meta. These boards can be hysterical. Ya no, she's not broken, but you might be XD.

KillerShim1 votes

Explain how she's not broken.

hi ìm groot2 votes

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Explain how she's not broken.

49% w/r my dude, broken champions win games.

Primaquarius1 votes

What are Merc Treads

KillerShim1 votes

Nice, 1.75 seconds of still not being able to do anything. Nice logic dude.

Primaquarius1 votes

You must not know how valuable 0.75s extra time is...Im bronze 5 and know these basics

KillerShim1 votes

All it takes is 1.75 seconds for me not being able to move at all for the enemy team to chain CC me to death.

Primaquarius1 votes

If youre trying to 1v5 then sure

KillerShim1 votes

Guess you don't understand what picks are.

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