a plea to all silver players

lolipopevelynn·Feb 4, 2016·2 votes·717 views

Please, i am begging you guys, stop Team fighting when you cant even farm 100 cs in 33 mins... just, please stop forcing it guys. its not worth throwing away such a huge lead just because you want to team fight in enemy jg over a raptor camp every 2 mins. i know you guys have the ability to play better. i know that not all of you are retarded enough to fight a lvl 16 jax that has 300 cs farmed in 33 mins when you are only lvl 12 with 112 cs farmed. i know this. so please, just THINK. the biggest problem with silver players is not mechanics, its the god damn POINTLESS deathmatching and idiotic shot calling which can be avoided simply by THINKING before you act.

so please just stop it. it will make climbing out of silver less cancerous.

8 Comments

weeaboomerFeb 4, 20161 votes

Rammus

Artum TsumiaFeb 4, 20161 votes

I mean, annoying as it is, this is one of the reasons people are in Bronze and Silver. The more annoying part of this is if they ever do win one of these fights, there's likely to be no pressure put anywhere on the map. Nothing more depressing than a game where your team doesn't do anything past the river for 20 minutes. It's like they're waiting to get an ace, but really they're just letting the other team farm the entire map.

lolipopevelynnFeb 5, 20162 votes

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I mean, annoying as it is, this is one of the reasons people are in Bronze and Silver. The more annoying part of this is if they ever do win one of these fights, there's likely to be no pressure put anywhere on the map. Nothing more depressing than a game where your team doesn't do anything past the river for 20 minutes. It's like they're waiting to get an ace, but really they're just letting the other team farm the entire map.

And god forbid you actually try to call a baron or split push a lane after an ace. you will get torn apart and "reported" for "not grouping", which really translates to "not grouping to take enemy jg camps".

JbirdsandoFeb 4, 20161 votes

A majority of people in silver and bronze are there for a reason, yes it is very frustrating, but you have to remember that other people had to climb out of that elo too. It'll be hell, but once you are out of there, you can start to play the teamgame that League is.

lolipopevelynnFeb 5, 20162 votes

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A majority of people in silver and bronze are there for a reason, yes it is very frustrating, but you have to remember that other people had to climb out of that elo too. It'll be hell, but once you are out of there, you can start to play the teamgame that League is.

its hard because you have to learn how to 1v5. gold and silver is probally the only elo you have to do that at. Even in bronze they atleast try to play properly but just lack the mechanics and knowledge. silver and gold tho you HAVE to 1v5 because everyone wants to play a single player campaign. which usually results in a team comp that looks like this.

MasterYi Jhin Katarina Sona Quinn

TahmKench Amumu Chogath Poppy Graves

Fanny ForecastFeb 5, 20161 votes

The issue is that the ranked system doesn't work. Currently, 60%, yes you read that right SIXTY PERCENT, of the playerbase is in BRONZE. Why? Yes, the reset shoving people down is part of it, but the fact that the ranked system is busted af is a huge glaring issue that, unless you started ranked in Season 5 or Season 6, you don't notice.

Every single time I see people who are like "OMG THE RANK SYSTEM WORKS STOP COMPLAINING BRONZIE" didn't start in S5 or S6, they started in S4 or, more frequently, S3 or before. It's ridiculous and there shouldn't be such a huge barrier to entry and learning for those of us that want to.

lolipopevelynnFeb 5, 20161 votes

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The issue is that the ranked system doesn't work. Currently, 60%, yes you read that right SIXTY PERCENT, of the playerbase is in BRONZE. Why? Yes, the reset shoving people down is part of it, but the fact that the ranked system is busted af is a huge glaring issue that, unless you started ranked in Season 5 or Season 6, you don't notice.

Every single time I see people who are like "OMG THE RANK SYSTEM WORKS STOP COMPLAINING BRONZIE" didn't start in S5 or S6, they started in S4 or, more frequently, S3 or before. It's ridiculous and there shouldn't be such a huge barrier to entry and learning for those of us that want to.

i think there should be a complete reset. everyone starts at ZERO MMR/elo and not just half it. this way everyone starts at a clean slate. i know this acc im on has terrible MMR as it always matches me with a mix of golds, silvers, bronze, and even unranked players. the skill levels are painfully noticeable. every single game its either a stop or get stomped type of match.

Fanny ForecastFeb 5, 20161 votes

I was a last season Silver support main. In norms, I consistently played against Plats and even the occasional Diamond and held my own, and even beat some of them severely. This says that, unless they were boosted (which most weren't because when you'd look them up, ranked games would show the same level of play as normals), they were legitimate Plats/Diamonds. And yes, no one plays as seriously in norms, but everyone plays at, approx, the same level due to the lack of stress. The lack of stress and lack of seriousness creates an about equal play level, maybe slightly lower.

So with that, I should be able to climb into Plat fairly easily, right? That's what I've been told any time I make an ELO hell/Ranked system is busted thread. I should play Annie supp and just go mage!! (what... this will get me to gold, MAX, because I HATE Annie's playstyle. It doesn't mesh with me, so I don't have fun, so I wont climb that high)

But no, I can't. The silver ELO specifically, which is now bronze, is such a huge clusterfuck of skill levels to the point of, one game your adc could be the best adc you've ever had, will take every advantage you spoonfeed them, and carry it to the end of the game, but the next you can barely get them to follow up initiations, and if they do, they, somehow, manage to not get the kill.

Silver is a huge clusterfuck and 90% of ANY game's playerbase should be in the BOTTOM TWO brackets of ranked gameplay. When this is happening, you look at either the bracket sizes and make new ones, or you look at the system for placements and general matches in ranked. Neither of these are EVER looked at, especially because neither of these were issues in Season 4 or before. My best friend got placed in Silver in S4, got to Gold with ease. Got placed in Gold in S5, never had to climb out of anything. His friend, placed Bronze in S4, climbed to Gold out of spite. Got placed Bronze again in S5, got stuck in silver and quit due to how the ranked system works.

And while yes, there could be other reasons for being unable to climb back to Gold (loss of skill from playing with lower skill players, more rage, less attentive, etc.) there shouldn't be this much of a gamble on whether or not you're gonna climb, or in placements, if you're gonna get placed high or low.

The fact that the ranked system is such a gamble on your ally's and enemy's skill levels says a LOT about how it works. My Gold 1 friend, the same one mentioned earlier, told me I belong in at least Plat, espec considering the previously mentioned things.

My first account ever, while part of the B1 placement was my fault (got to lv30, instantly went into ranked. I had previous MOBA experience tho), it's such a gamble on whether or not the players are actually on your skill level or not. First game was AFK, Second had an intentional feeder, Third had 2 people who wouldn't stop bickering. I got shafted, hard.

My second account, placed Silver 3. First game went okay, Second game had a guy who said "gg ff" after he gave away first blood, then proceeded to run mid and just feed. Third game went decently as well. We could have won that game, especially considering Season 5 was the Burst Season, and we had an excellent mid-late game burst comp, and all the lanes were doing fine.

My third account, this one, has yet to be placed. I didn't hit 30 until just recently, after the reset, but I've done 4 of my placements. First one, Soraka, had a jungler who "didn't know how to play from behind" and went 1/5/1 as Amumu as well as someone who had never played graves, ever, and picked graves top into shen. Second one was my fault, I was tired as shit and decided to play one. Third one, we had a suicidal vladimir who repeatedly engaged a corki, gave up first, second, and third blood to him after saying "god damn he has a lot of damage". He picked up the pace, but by then it was too late and our Voli had tilted from it, and Teemo got earlier kills due to failed ganks from Voli. Fourth one, just played it after a couple days of a break, I played Taric top into a Ryze. Our LB went 2/0, then proceeded to flame me and tilt after I gave Ryze a single kill accidentally. Ryze proceeded to get impossibly fed due to LB's poor decision making and it became too much to shutdown unless we had 3+ people on him.

So yeah, Ranked is ALL about luck. Skill means close to nothing in ranked, especially as of Season 5 and Season 6. And while yes, there are things I could have done differently in EVERY game to result in at least a bigger chance for a win, the fact that I get shafted REPEATEDLY with horrible luck in teammates is the reason I'm in Silver.