her laning is now even WORSE than it was before and i dont get why. she lost her early stealth passive, so i think she deserves an actual laning phase. all that needs to be done is allow her to get the 60% CD reduction on her Q when she hits minions aswell as monsters so she can CS the same way she does on old eve. again, she doesnt get stealth till 6, so its not like she is going to cheese you in lane...
Halodjin Tyr4 votesalso she needs a way to Push towers! she has 0 tower pushing potential by the look of it, which is a problem.
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also she needs a way to Push towers! she has 0 tower pushing potential by the look of it, which is a problem.
ya, her wave clearing outside of jg camps is god awful. losing her AS also hurt her clearing and tower taking. i know they want her to be a jgler, but her ROOTS were as a midlaner, so its not fair to take that away. trying to push waves is so infuriating because she cant actually do it anymore, which means she is anchored to jgling.
Chembaron Yamada1 votesLooking at her kit, shouldn't Lichbane be a pretty strong item for her? That means she would actually have some pushing power, doesn't she?
The Bad Touch2 votesLooking at her kit, shouldn't Lichbane be a pretty strong item for her? That means she would actually have some pushing power, doesn't she?
Pushing power means nothing when she has no escape, or range. Lichbane is a horribly squishy item. Lane Eve is a bad Fizz in every way that matters.
Salron2 votesBecause she has been balanced around being a jungler for 5 years now
Elsewise1 votesShe's seeing some playability in toplane on PBE.
The Bad Touch1 votesI've played since season 1. Eve was never a popular mid laner. She started out primarily as a TT jungler, back when people still played TT. Hell for a while TT had shorter queues than SR.
Of course Riot "fixed" TT and no one ever played it again.
DunkinNoobs1 votesEve mid was terrible before so it's not like she lost much.
Edit: Let me guess, downvotes from the 2 Eve mid mains in silver?
FooDang1 votesI remember when Moscow 5 took Eve mid after her first rework and it was rediculous. Because of the permastealth you didnt know if she was hanging out in mid or ganking top or bottom. She put pressure on the sidelanes just from her stealth passive so RIOT gutted it.
Fütanari1 votesEve not in jg? what?
warpenguin5551 votesBecause Riot doesn't care about eve mid or any other off meta roles she gets played in.
Colgate Gator1 votesBecause not everything is meant to be taken midlane.
Shuyin1781 votesLane Eve was always garbage, her place is in the jungle. As for the stealth, it's good she can't do it until level 6 because now Riot can give her power in other places instead of keeping her gutted because her stealth from level 1 made her bullshit early game through people not being able to ward for her before items.
Aazzlano1 votesNo they gutted her FAR more than current eve lmao.
Shuyin1781 votesI love how you are saying she's gutted worse now when you clearly have not seen what she can do in matches outside of ability previews. Her ganks are crazy now, even more terrifying than live Eve once she hits 6. Her flanks as assassinations are really good too. Go watch a player that isn't trash play her before you judge.
Aazzlano1 votesimplying I don't have PBE and haven't played her myself, and have direct comparison of what she can do from what I'm able to do on live, lol.
Her W is good. The rest of her kit is complete trash, and has been gutted beyond any reason. Oh and, her best spell was W, and that was of course removed. So there's that too. But at least her W is also good now. I'd still rather take the current W over the reworked W, there's no need for this ability at all and it takes way too much power budget.
maybe if she was able to waveclear she would be comparable to now, I guess, because at least if someone tried to contest the wave clear you could threaten their approach with a W, forcing them to back off and allowing you to walk away uncontested. But she has no waveclear so she can't split within any reason now, especially because all her AD scalings are gone and there are many AD items that could have solved that issue.
Slack King1 votesShe was always a shit midlaner, you had some Q shove cheese. Thats about it. Her jungle was always way stronger for early kills
Khristophoros1 votesHer stealth was useless in lane. She has health sustain now. I think her laning is better.
Linna Excel1 votesNo, if you knew how to use it, you could play mind games with the enemy team. Every time you couldn't be seen, you were threatening a roam.
Nut on my Butt1 votesEven when she was originally reworked and became an op mid laner and perhaps the strongest soloQ champ in the game for a bit, her laning itself was not the reason. It was because of her former burst and roam potential.