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Delete/rework items that are silently gamebreaking, not just obvious stuff like Banner

DoktorKaiser·6/14/2018, 10:20:01 PM·21 votes·8,091 views

item 3147 item 3812 item 3095 item 3124

In my honest opinion these 4 items not only break the game, but smash it into little pieces and then stomp it for two and a half hours.

Here is my opinion on why these 4 items make me want to puke when I play the game:

item 3147 - Imo the worst offender here since it has been a problem for a couple of seasons now and the amount of champions that can abuse it is highest, its really obvious why this item is gamebreaking - it offers some of the strongest things you can get from an item : extreme damage burst and extreme vision denial. And those are only its passives, it suffers nothing to pay for those broken passives. The damage it offers in combine with the already ridiculous damage in the game right now and the most broken rune (electro) offers a burst that can kill people from the earliest levels up until the very game. There is absolutely no reason not to buy this item since it has no downsides to it.

item 3812 - Perhaps the most controversial item on this list, but i truly believe that drain tanking on champions that should never be allowed to drain tank such as Graves Fiora Riven Yasuo is one of, if not the most broken thing in the entire game. There is but 1 single downside to playing shit like Fiora who can easily 1v1, hell even 1v3 in most scenarios, and that is getting heavily bursted and this item just denies it and not only gives them time to lifesteal every single ounce of damage back but also gives them the stats to do it.

item 3095 - The newest addition to league. We begged you not to do it. Did you listen? Fuck no. Why listen to your playerbase, some of which have played for almost a decade and have seen far too much dumb shit in this game to know what will happen. Do ADCs need this item now that their crit builds are gutted ? Yes they do. Does that mean that assassins won't abuse the shit out of this item? Of course it doesn't. Few games ago I was playing Wukong, I almost never play him so I really sucked, late game with 5 items I couldn't burst half of enemies ADC hp bar even with full ult, but as soon as I bought this abomination I 1 shot her before she could even flash. Have you seen Rengar with this item? His burst is higher than when he was reworked due to having 0 counterplay, he literally kills you in 1 Q, no need to even double Q. This item just gives you the option to get all that sweet Lethality and AD and Lifesteal and then just build 1 item that turns all of that into an extreme ball of crit burst FOR FREE, you still get the heavy stats that the item provides, the unreal burst provided by it is literally A PASSIVE.

item 3124 - It makes me sad to say this, I love Guinsoo's , it has been such a niche items for years and years until you decided to suddenly make it broken and mandatory on any melee and on some ranged hyper carries, which is why I am no longer sure that "make it melee only" or "make it ranged only" would work. I still have tons of happy memories of building on hit Jax when I was a newbie, when this was a small indie game breaking through and I was rocking it on my favorite champ. That time is long gone however, and I think that Guinsoo's doesn't bring anything positive to this game in this form, I want it to stay because its an oldschool item, it just needs a super big rework that could possibly change it entirely effectively deleting it, but keeping the name for us oldschool guys.

What do you guys think ?

30 Comments

EvilUnicornLord6/14/2018, 11:25:32 PM7 votes

Why not make item 3095 for ranged champions only since melee assassins are getting way too much out of it?

MrHaZeYo6/14/2018, 10:22:38 PM5 votes

Storm Razor shouldn't even be built on Crit ADCs.

On everyone else though it's obnoxious.

Death's Dance isn't that bad.

VoraciousX6/15/2018, 5:25:33 AM2 votes

How are these all silent? To be fair though Riven needs Death's Dance and isn't an optimal user. All of her abilities are AOE. It's more controversial because ADCs tend to abuse the item in combination with Phantom Dancer and guinsoo's just needs to be reverted. It was fine before. They could just give more stacks on melee and make that it.

Titanium706/15/2018, 3:58:43 AM2 votes

I agree on all but Rageblade.

I like the whole concept of the Item and I'm completely fine with seeing it on Carrys. The only problemativ user of this thing is Yi and Yi alone - rework him already it's about time...

And I'd add item 3146 to the list.

Yes it's niche - yes the Champs who build are not Meta or anything - but still... This Item is busted beyond any belive.

Eye Of Terror6/15/2018, 6:03:37 AM2 votes

And what a coincidence ...they are all AD items.

Riot definitely not balancing the game towards AD Champs.

AwesomeGuyDj6/15/2018, 11:07:14 AM2 votes

item 3147 item 3095 item 3087 item 3035 Quinn

AR URF6/15/2018, 11:44:49 AM2 votes

Let me start a thread about balance and sneak in Yasuo to indirectly turn it into another yasuo hate thread.

Reformedfindlay6/15/2018, 12:14:21 AM1 votes

nonsense, guinsoos is far more bullshit than any of the other items there.

longevity of gamebreakage means nothing to me.

Seeing yi and aatrox literally stand still like towers and melt everything in the LC-fucking-K with this dumbass item is the dumbest shit I've seen since 5.0 AS kogmaw.

Daddy Ants6/15/2018, 11:44:15 AM1 votes

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item 3812 - Perhaps the most controversial item on this list, but i truly believe that drain tanking on champions that should never be allowed to drain tank such as Graves Fiora Riven Yasuo is one of, if not the most broken thing in the entire game. There is but 1 single downside to playing shit like Fiora who can easily 1v1, hell even 1v3 in most scenarios, and that is getting heavily bursted and this item just denies it and not only gives them time to lifesteal every single ounce of damage back but also gives them the stats to do it.

If you remove item 3812 then item 3146 needs to go as well.

Onotori6/15/2018, 6:14:40 AM1 votes

Add item 3078 to that list.

AirKingNeo6/15/2018, 1:07:30 AM1 votes

Death's Dance is only problematic on Riven.

Rageblade is only problematic on Yi.

MasterDClone6/15/2018, 2:24:40 AM1 votes

The problem currently is that all ad assassins rely too heavily on duskblade for damage so to remove it from the game would mean you need to buff their burst and then complication could arise because those buffs would get abused and what-not right now allthough dusk is still a must buy on assassin's is as balance as it's gonna get. I dislike guinsoos and also think it needs a change because too many champs could abuse it and those who abused it before are even stronger especially when combo'd with essence reaver. The other 2 i have no problem with

Hyquiem6/15/2018, 11:47:08 AM1 votes

No the most game breaking item is item 3031 the factor of just giving a multiplier to glass cannons is horrendous,upon it the thing gives the third strong form of damage. In my opinion remove it since it’s to strong for one class alone

Sleepcoma6/15/2018, 5:24:20 AM1 votes

adcs have been abusing assassin items for years now... Lucian item 3071 item 3142