How much longer do we have to wait for jungle to be fixed?

Yenn··4 votes·890 views

This role has become dog shit. It's virtually unplayable in the current state, because whether or not you succeed is almost entirely reliant on your team mates.

You can't do fuck all without a good team to back you up, especially with the recent changes ensuring you're always at a disadvantage to solo lanes unless you're getting kills. If your lanes are losing, the enemy lanes get free reign of your jungle, and there's no way for you to even get any EXP/gold.

I just had a game as Udyr, where I could not even enter my fucking jungle at level 4.

My top and bottom lane were both getting bodied. Top lane was level 1 with 2 CS when I was level 3, and didn't have any concept of wave control, making it impossible for me to put any pressure on his lane. Bottom lane died early and the support started raging and completely left the lane to roam. As Lulu.

Because of these two players, I was completely removed from the game. I can't enter my bottom jungle because the enemy Bard is roaming it, since his ADC is 1v1 with our ADC, and he has a level advantage over me (on top of his kit shitting on Udyr). By the time my second red spawned, top was level 4 while the enemy Wukong was level 7. The enemy Lee Sin was sitting in it, and I couldn't contest him, because my top lane couldn't leave the turret.

This exact bullshit happens to the jungle on the losing team in at least 50% of games, if not more. It's absurd how little individual control the jungler has over their own performance.

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ZephyrDrake3 votes

So... jungle is broken because you had terrible teammates and the enemy knew how to take advantage of their lead? This exact same scenario would have happened even before the changes so you aren't really saying much other than "enemy team gets ahead and can control my jungle since it's a 1v2! Why can't I 1v2 the enemy that's ahead rito!"

Fízz v22 votes

I wonder why jungle mains like IWD always complain about jungle being bad and "ruined" when they get a bad team. Probably because they are used to deciding every game as jungler, so now that they only decide most games, jungle is ruined xd

Yenn2 votes

Jungle is broken because the baseline for the jungler is to be permanently behind, and the reduction to EXP scaling makes it impossible to catch up.

As it stands, if you lose control of your jungle early, you're completely out of the game. In the past, you would have an early game advantage by being on par with the solo lanes, which made solo lanes unable to invade your jungle alone that early.

OnlyOneLift1 votes

JG should be a dominant role. It's the biggest map-influencer and most shot-calling of the positions. Killing the xp of the role is making it either lane-taxing carries, hard split pushers who will also lane tax heavily, or support-utility focused junglers. When lanes were on perma-feed I used to be able to step in and do something about it. Being the same level as a frikkin support isn't going to make that happen. Not as much of an issue outside of elo hell, but in low elo nobody listens to shot calling and you can't rely on anyone. The position has been gutted.

Yenn1 votes

My top lane is 1-5-0 with 32 CS at 14 minutes and mid lane is 1-4-0. Both are getting stomped.

Once again, I cannot even enter my jungle to catch up. All of my camps are gone and I'm basically now forced to AFK, because I'm unable to gank the fed lanes, and bottom lane is incredibly risky because I'm behind. I can't maintain any vision of my entrances, and if one of the fed champions catches me in my jungle, I'm dead.

I basically can't even play the fucking game because my top and mid lane are feeding.

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