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PSA: Every role is still human and capable of making mistakes

Eedat··49 votes·1,698 views

So I'm a Jungle main. Lately the boards are making it seem like Jungle and Support can do no wrong. So I just want to say:

Supports can have bad games and play like shit

Junglers can have bad games and play like shit

ADCs can have bad games and play like shit

Mid laners can have bad games and play like shit

Top laners can have bad games and play like shit

Also:

  • It's not ALWAYS the ADC's fault if bot lane loses

  • It's not ALWAYS a good time to leave your ADC alone in lane

  • It's not ALWAYS your laner's fault they don't have 360° perma-vision around their lane

  • It's not ALWAYS a good time to farm jungle

  • It's not ALWAYS a good time to be top side when there's an infernal drake on the map

  • It's not ALWAYS your jungler's fault you died

  • It's not ALWAYS a good idea to gank the 3/0 Darius

  • It's not ALWAYS your teams fault for not following up a bad engage

  • It's not ALWAYS someone else's fault you didnt win

Lets be honest. I could keep this list going for hundreds of examples. What are you people expecting from your team mates exactly? Every single one of us makes mistakes. Maybe there is a reason your team mates aren't Challenger? Or that you aren't Challenger either?

Ffs stop crying about other people's mistakes and maybe start focusing on your own. And ffs stop acting like Junglers and Supports can do no wrong.

32 Comments

Marshbouy11 votes

Lately the boards are making it seem like Jungle and Support can do no wrong.

weird, ive been getting the vibe that jungle can do no right.

I can explain why this happens though. People get so tired of the "omg this support/jungle sucks" mentality that they start to bullshit something about how a 0/6/0 karma is doing no wrong. Also they automatically doubt a "omg this support/jungle sucked" moment because most of the time it's like "they didn't do this one specific thing at this one specific time"

Eedat3 votes

I'm a jungle main and I've seen a lot of threads recently saying "not jungler's fault". Which it isn't sometime. Yet othertimes you can turn around a losing lane as the jungler. Thats the point. Its not ALWAYS one roles fault. It can be both in different situations

9001Teemos7 votes

There are warring circlejerks. Sometimes flaming laners are more vocal and noticeable, other times it's a board full of junglers/supports with victim complexes. Nobody ever wins.

Marshbouy2 votes

lol true.

Wyrmblade6 votes

River Shen can do no wrong.

Bladerunner77771 votes

River Shen for president

Juggernaut6284 votes

I smell a salty ADC main.

Seriously though, everyone knows that jungle and support are never perfect, it's just realistically the other roles are generally more toxic (the rivens, the vaynes, the yasuos, etc.) so people notice them more.

I also smell incoming downvotes.

Eedat4 votes

Ummmm you can Lolskill me. Havent played ADC since season 5 and it was never a main role lol. Unless ARAM counts

Renascent6 votes

Here we go again. Calling people out through roles is starting to look a lot like calling out people's ranks, thinking just because they're low elo means their argument is invalidated and that they have no right to even bring up any points of interest.

Dr Poro1 votes

I'm pretty sure that first sentence was just to troll. He probably just forgot to write kappa or something similar behind it.

Enlegacy3 votes

When is it EVER a good idea to gank a 3-0 Darius unless you brought bot lane with you?

Eedat3 votes

It's not, thats my point. Enemy Darius is 3-0. Top laner spam pings for ganks and rages in chat at the jungler. Fuck that I'm not going near him. He's gonna kill us both

KhaZixTheScyther2 votes

heres the thing. you people seem to have this complex that "enemy laner has a few kills hes now unstoppable" thats not true, a lot of the time that laner is now fed due to ganks but your laner can still punish them hard.

next time you encounter that, look at the enemies lane watch what happens THEN decide what you do./

Eedat3 votes

No, I have this complex that "enemy Darius has a few kills hes now unstoppable". Thats true. Fed Darius is one of the best in the game in a 1v2

KhaZixTheScyther1 votes

and yet with PROPER coordination which you get when you dont rage at eachother and ward....you can easily destroy them. they tend to get cocky.

Sincerly someone who can play every role decently.

Attticus Finch2 votes

Why do you care about what the board's fleeting consensus on any topic is?

Chatillon1 votes

He is just reminding people which helps a lot of players mindsets and also posting these kinds of threads is a positive and constructive way to vent

Now go get your pickaxe and get back to mining your salt, boy

Attticus Finch1 votes

It's not really constructive at all, no. This site isn't his blog, and only a small minority of players who play this game even come on here.

hi im minty2 votes

The problem is that when you go into a game, you have more people blaming support and jungle for random things that go wrong/missed plays.

I've had games with non-stop flaming from ADC's who don't do anything but talk trash to you. Yes, we all have bad games but usually the roles of jungle and support get a lot of the toxic comments.

Chatillon2 votes

If they aren't human though they have no excuse, do they?!

Your logic is flawed because all i play with is boosted animals

Klappa

GrReaper961 votes

Jokes on you i play Orianna Blitzcrank

Supreme Senpai691 votes

People are toxic to the support/jungler the most because they can be blamed the easiest. However, there are TONS of shitty junglers (and probably supports too, but being a support main, I've never had one of my team lol.)

That's all it is, really. At least for me most of my junglers suck ass and they get flamed. But for example, our top laner sucks ass and doesn't get flamed as often. I think that's where it came from.

Xeruon1 votes

Support mains put themselves on a pedestal because "I'm sacrificing my fun your your fun."

Thing is, you didn't have to sacrifice your enjoyment for mine, you chose to do so.

crippler382 votes

but support IS fun...

EDIT: although I do hate it when anyone but draven gets mad that I killed someone when they were low, I'd rather they DON'T get the chance to flash out and you got minions so shaddap I want my sightstone.

Supreme Senpai692 votes

Personally as a support main I disagree with that. I hate feeling useless when my ADC is bad and then being flamed no matter what I do at that point. If I stay with them, I can't magically make them a God, so I get flamed for being a bad support. But if I leave them then I get flamed for.. well, leaving them.

It's not about sacrificing fun, I love playing support. It's the feeling of uselessness if your ADC is bad which other roles don't really feel during all of laning phase and then, on top of that, being flamed. But like I said, supports can be bad too. They're just the lightning rod of being flamed is all, whereas maybe a top laner or an ADC can be bad and get away with it.

General Theritt1 votes

Realistically this is a really good point of "Don't blame someone because they are not doing well". but even better: play a champion who does not fall off

Whenever I'm in an unfavorable matchup and I do not feel comfortable with my teams picks for roles, out of paper and scissors, I pick Malphite. Champions with hard CC (a powerful one) engage, or general tankiness that is not hard to pull off, that are basically giant targets that cannot be mowed down easily are some of the most reliable in the game. Maokai is in a similar fashion of "Proxy carry" where it doesn't matter how badly you went in lane phase as long as your team can work self-sufficiently with you still being being a massive threat because of your tankiness, sustain, damage reduction, and hard CC. 20% damage reduction is insane later on. Or Tristana , who's damage and arguably entire kit is useful at any point in the game, packing CC, an AS steroid, AoE damage, and a large burst of damage to both champions AND towers.

oh btw. I get people can use him effectively, but even built tank, Rammus is just currently not enough to suffice unless it his midgame. otherwise, early on he's too squishy thanks to his cooldowns and mana and is easily harassed by ranged top-lane opponents. late game most Carries will have optimized against him, or simply mow him down before he becomes a problem ( Jinx or KogMaw ) Best to either keep practicing in comps you know will work even if you're far behind, because his CC is still valuable, as is his taunt.

this helps work out that feeling of "I'm useless" or "my jungler is useless". Kinda hard to argue "he did nothing" when one unstoppable force can win an entire teamfight.

Sincerely: That one top lane player who would prefer you play a tank instead of Quinn or Teemo.

Dr Poro1 votes

Dude when you're in silver, better report every ally that doesn't win their matchup. If you don't play like a challenger smurf, you don't belong in silver. Kappa

Maximum Morde1 votes

I'm pretty sure everyone is a boosted animal and should just be demoted to b5

DeathBurst1 votes

All roles are human and capable of mistakes, but Support and Jungle are easy scape-goat and are more often than other roles blamed for no good reason in games. So the reactions on the boards is often to dismiss critics against Jungle/Support as yet another attempt at scape-goating, just like all the people crying about ELO Hell. It's understandable, and no one really needs a reminder that Jungler and Supports aren't perfect either.

sdsdfdf1 votes

Bronze=u cant report any1 because basically every1 who plays ranked and is still in bronze is trash, no offense Silver=glorified bronze Gold=better glorified bronze. Plat, D5=good players, often big ego. D4+ = great players, if playing bad check history and if constant underperformance, ban the kid for boosted

Schoenberg1 votes

I prefer when one of the roles is AFK. Jhin

aLawfulFalafel1 votes

i feel like its the fault of whoever i deem its the fault of!

i have a 1 in 5 chance of being blamed the same as anybody else on my team, sometimes its one persons fault, and sometimes its everybodys and sometimes its nobodies fault

but at the end of the day

I AM THE DICTATOR!

lol jk [slayer-jinx-catface]

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