Bard feels very unrewarding to play

Cloud273··4 votes·768 views

Bard is the highest skill support in this game. Almost every other support has at least 1 point and click ability. Bard has none of these. Even his heal is possible to mess up (placing it in the wrong spot). Every aspect of this champ's kit requires precision, perfect timing, and outplaying your opponent. With other supports, you just right click with your cc and get a kill. I feel like with Bard's kit, they added way too much counterplay. Half the time I feel like I'm helping the enemy team. You ulted an enemy champ? Cool, now his/her teammates have time to catch up to you. You ulted an ally/objective? Cool, we'll just kill it 2 seconds later. You used your portal? Cool, we'll just follow you through it. And they can destroy your health packs. I honestly don't understand why Riot felt the need to add so much counterplay to this champ. And his health shrine (which can also be destroyed) is one of the most expensive abilities in this game (because healing in any form is toxic). Please buff this champ in some way. For the amount of skill it takes to play him properly, he deserves to have better scaling, lower mana costs or cooldowns, etc. Or remove some of the counterplay on his abilities.

Oh, I completely forgot about his trinkets. Supports already put themselves at risk when they go to place/destroy a ward. Like all supports, Bard is required to ward, but he also puts himself at risk every time he tries to collect a trinket. And the enemy team can see where your trinkets are, so they can just hide near them and ambush you. And of course your team won't help you, because that means missing CS and/or experience.

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Gunpoint4 votes

Imo, most supports should be like bard, bard should not be like most supports.

ShuffledPancake2 votes

Just bcz its point and click doesnt mean you cant mess up, Soraka w on minion = fuck up BUT its point and click, gtfo with this He is the highest skill cap No. he may be the hardest BY how bad he is but not by good design

Cloud2731 votes

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Just bcz its point and click doesnt mean you cant mess up, Soraka w on minion = fuck up BUT its point and click, gtfo with this He is the highest skill cap No. he may be the hardest BY how bad he is but not by good design

Healing a minion isn't the end of the world. In some instances it can actually be helpful, like when you're trying to push the wave. Or you can just troll your opponent a bit and hope they miss a cs.

ShuffledPancake1 votes

So when your adc gets ignited and hes about to die, you heal a minion due to them being near them. k not the end of the world, so fucking stupid.

VentusDragoon1 votes

If your adc is ignited, Soraka's new heal won't do crap for it since it's so weak now, and happens often and weak instead of somewhat often and strong.

ShuffledPancake1 votes

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If your adc is ignited, Soraka's new heal won't do crap for it since it's so weak now, and happens often and weak instead of somewhat often and strong.

1 tick of ignite is less then a w heal.

VentusDragoon1 votes

Ignite also ticks faster than Soraka can apply heals, and ignite significantly WEAKENS heals.

ShuffledPancake1 votes

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Ignite also ticks faster than Soraka can apply heals, and ignite significantly WEAKENS heals.

You make 0 sense in your arguments (It isnt a counter argument to my argument -)

VentusDragoon1 votes

I-It does, actually. You said one ignite tick was less than a w heal, and I countered with that ignite ticks more often than she can heal (about 3 or 4 ticks at max rank cd, I think), and reduces the healing that she can heal you for anyways.

ShuffledPancake1 votes

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I-It does, actually. You said one ignite tick was less than a w heal, and I countered with that ignite ticks more often than she can heal (about 3 or 4 ticks at max rank cd, I think), and reduces the healing that she can heal you for anyways.

So when there is 1 tick left of ignite (1 TICK M8) Your heal will stop it, it does less dmg so stop.

VentusDragoon1 votes

You... really don't understand how ignite works, do you?

ShuffledPancake1 votes

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You... really don't understand how ignite works, do you?

Ignite ticks for x dmg over z time, i said on the LAST HIT SPECIFICALLY

Meta Not Found2 votes

Little known secret: He's EXTREMELY broken right now in mid lane with smite (runeglaive + luden's) 21/9/0 mastery. Especially against melee mid laners. Abuse for the freelo while you still can - but if you're unable to carry, assume your team will blame you and call you a troll.

Lugg2 votes

I have to totally disagree with you.

I find Bard to be one of the most rewarding champions in the game. His kit allows him to keep vision up all over the map since he can travel super quick, and unless I am chain CC'd, I will get away pretty easy. He can take two enemies out of a fight for a couple seconds with his stun. He can change the course of the entire game with one well placed ult. It is extremely satisfying to set your team up for victory.

Pretty Dhizi2 votes

Bard's the most rewarding. Main reason I main him, along with his flexibility and great ability to initiate from unexpected ways..Or to save objectives, or to screw up an enemy team initating to freeze 3, eliminate the 2 carries in the back-end who just got their frontline stasis'd..

Maybe..You're just bad at Bard? Not a bad thing, just means you need to..You know. Practice more.

DoctorInju1 votes

Soraka ult removes grievous wounds.

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