The one thing I want in preseason 9

Soul Dealer··2 votes·1,084 views

I want to see riot look at every single item in the game and figure out what needs to be changed in all of them. Right now a lot of champions are broken because of items and not their kits so can riot play do something about this

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Cotten Eyed Joe1 votes

There's also items that counter the broken items. Specifically, what broken items?

Soul Dealer1 votes

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There's also items that counter the broken items. Specifically, what broken items?

Duskbalde, the black cleaver and stormrazor to name a few.

WøOxer3 votes

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Duskbalde, the black cleaver and stormrazor to name a few.

Black Cleaver is over nerfed, no idea what are u talking about.

9NINE2 votes

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Black Cleaver is over nerfed, no idea what are u talking about.

he's kinda right on duskblade though

WøOxer2 votes

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he's kinda right on duskblade though

I didn't mention Dusk blade, but he is not right about Black Cleaver.

Soul Dealer1 votes

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Black Cleaver is over nerfed, no idea what are u talking about.

Black cleaver is what makes juggernauts such a problem. It makes it so those champs are extremely hard to kill but allows them to do a lot of damage

WøOxer1 votes

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Black cleaver is what makes juggernauts such a problem. It makes it so those champs are extremely hard to kill but allows them to do a lot of damage

All Juggernauts building now Trinity force instead of Cleaver.

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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It makes it so those champs are extremely hard to kill but allows them to do a lot of damage

bro, thats the entire idea of a juggernaut. like wtf.

and unless youre behind in gold or faced with tank teamcomps, even Garen builds triforce over cleaver currently, because its such a bad item after the passive nerf.

Soul Dealer1 votes

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bro, thats the entire idea of a juggernaut. like wtf.

and unless youre behind in gold or faced with tank teamcomps, even Garen builds triforce over cleaver currently, because its such a bad item after the passive nerf.

I don’t know what game your playing but I have never seen an illoai Darius or Garen build trinity over cleaver

Critmaster Garen2 votes

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I don’t know what game your playing but I have never seen an illoai Darius or Garen build trinity over cleaver

what type of games are you playing?

darius definitely builds triforce. its both his highest winrate build and his most common build.

https://champion.gg/champion/darius/Top?

and why shouldnt illaoi build it? her w deals a shitload of damage with the sheen proc and is on a short enough cooldown to benefit from it.

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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Black cleaver is what makes juggernauts such a problem. It makes it so those champs are extremely hard to kill but allows them to do a lot of damage

Black Cleaver isn't what makes Juggernauts a problem.

Conqueror is.

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