More Evidence of why people think Promos are Rigged

Illabethe·Mar 11, 2019·2 votes·1,814 views

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Yup. This is the team I get in a Promo game for Silver III - II Support.

Something look familiar to topic? Oh Right? The Taric/Yi Duo trying to "Funnel" Gold to Yi. (And the Int feeding Jhin with the name "Who Cares XD")

Yeah. I looked up Taric and Yi before the game. Taric has an OVERALL 34% win rate. he is in the top 82%. I am in the Top 57%. Yi is in the top 54% Somehow, even though he ints every game.

You know what they did entire game?

They ulted straight down mid with Taric's Ult, dived right between 2 turrets, and int fed three consecutive times as soon as they ressed.

Do you know what the Jhin did? He stopped farming at level 8 entirely. Began running around the map until he found people to kill him.

But you know..... hey. It's not like these games are rigged or anything.

24 Comments

EedatMar 11, 20194 votes

Contrary to popular belief, you aren't special and Riot isn't going to rig a game for 9 other people just to fuck you.

IllabetheMar 11, 20191 votes

I think you need to relook at how I worded the title.

And representatives from Riot themselves have admitted they do things to make promos harder.

I've played enough promos between my 7 accounts to know there's no such thing as coincidences. I've had my share of solid teams. But I've also had my much larger share of teams who have some duo of some strategy you see nowhere else in the climb. I know VERY well that in all likelihood, although riot doesn't intentionally rig a match, they do adopt some promotion algorithm which does indeed increase the likelihood of them being much worse teammates.

ChrisBrownzeMar 11, 20192 votes

You faced smurfs. The kayn is 100% smurfing and the braum looks like a smurf too. Its amazing that Riot does nothing while smurfs ruin game after game in lower elo.

hrooza dota Mar 11, 20195 votes

op is a diamond smurf btw....

[sg-lulu]

ChrisBrownzeMar 11, 20193 votes

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op is a diamond smurf btw....

[sg-lulu]

https://imgur.com/gallery/cIAg6

Frosted TipsMar 12, 20192 votes

With OP's general logic and thinking that Morgana Jungle is legitament viable O have to agree I strongly doubt.

IllabetheMar 12, 20191 votes

I have a 68% Win rate with it in D II so whatever. You really need to try new things.

Frosted TipsMar 12, 20192 votes

You have never proved it and I have tried everything Jungle. I used to play Quinn Jungle before her rework and had people dodge lobby about 50% of the time and I had a 70% win rate on it with 20+ games.

IllabetheMar 12, 20191 votes

I don't need to prove it..... I don't have an ego to inflate and I like my privacy.

Let me ask you this: What about Morgana do you think isn't a jungler?

Frosted TipsMar 12, 20193 votes

I don't care about ego. I simply do not believe you and no one should because there is absolutly nothing that you have ever said or done to prove you are half decent at this game. Your general logic to balance is also extremely far from most players I have talked/discussed with making it even harder to believe.

Morgana takes camps slow early on and is extremely susceptible to early invades and any semi competent jungler would abuse the crap out of a Morgana jungle. Also she has on super easy to dodge CC ability pre 6 and against any decent laner would never get a successful gank off. Also the ability to get to the enemy for your Ultinate is impossibly unless the laner is blind.

IllabetheMar 12, 20191 votes

Oh Please. I've been ahead of the meta on literally every single champion who has created a significant stir in the last 4 years.

I was playing item 3003 on 10 different champions for 3 years before Riot decided to nerf its AP/Ratios by up to 60. I was playing Dual Muramana/Seraph's on Ezreal 2 years before it became a significant stir. I was playing Seraphs/AP Nami/Sona before anyone else ever moved over. I was playing Zephyr Udyr 2 years before it was removed for being broken. I was playing On Hit Neeko as soon as she came out, and people duplicated my build. Pros were building AP. I was playing Sylas Tank as soon as he came out. People were building him AP. I was playing Tank Ekko 2 months before anyone else picked it up. You name it. If It's been a champion I was interested in, I pioneered the build style.

I'd love to know which logic/balance opinions you disagree with though. Btw, "Most" players generally do not experiment, and do not actually know the most effective gold/build structures. They follow those who they see use them in unique situations. In other words, they don't have opinions. They have a model, and begin using the model, like a mouse chasing cheese through a maze.

Morgana's jungle is not really that slow at all. You also do not have to use Q to farm, and it's sure as hell not hard to hit when an invading jungler is in pursuit. Her Q has a high miss rate when she is the one being aggressive. It has an extremely high hit rate when someone ELSE is. Jungle is wide open with thin paths. Not hard to hit at all.

You're kidding yourself if you think she can't gank. You communicate with your team. You use your Flash to set up a sure-fire angle if need-be. You gank with Red buff, to ensure faster HP decay. If the laner you are ganking for is in, sometimes you don't even need to hit Q. You just throw it ahead of where they WILL be, so they hesitate and move backwards, toward your laning ally. Then your ally picks up the CC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8sWkI7OChI Challenger playing Morg jungle even in 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJb8ZrK9_8Q Masters Morgana jungler

The only jungler I have EVER had a problem with as Morgana jungle is LeeSin , because of his Q rework. But, he counters Morgana wherever she is.

You really argue stupid things. If She can't get to a laner to ult, how does she do it in a linear support lane? Oh right........ she does. Flash..... Mobility...... Hitting Q....... Hexflash...... omai. So hard to get close.

Frosted TipsMar 12, 20193 votes

Oh Please. I've been ahead of the meta on literally every single champion who has created a significant stir in the last 4 years.

Yup not sharing your main profile because you don't have an ego /s

I was playing Dual Muramana/Seraph's on Ezreal 2 years before it became a significant stir.

Well he actually got some significant changes since then that made that build much better than when you claim to have done it. His Ultimate no longer deals reduced damage after passing through enemies which is huge since now you can hit a full team with the full damage of the Ultimate which you could not do when you built that way.

I was playing Seraphs/AP Nami/Sona before anyone else ever moved over.

I have seen Sona do this since ever. It has never been consistent on Nami because it isn't good.

I was playing Zephyr Udyr 2 years before it was removed for being broken.

Many people did this.

I was playing On Hit Neeko as soon as she came out, and people duplicated my build. Pros were building AP.

Many people did this, and you don't know what the Pros have been doing in scrims and that could have easily been a thing Pros were testing and not using in the Pro scene yet.

I was playing Sylas Tank as soon as he came out. People were building him AP.

So did a lot of people.

I was playing Tank Ekko 2 months before anyone else picked it up.

I saw people doing Tank Ekko from day 1 of his release.

You name it. If It's been a champion I was interested in, I pioneered the build style.

No ego here /s

Morgana's jungle is not really that slow at all. You also do not have to use Q to farm, and it's sure as hell not hard to hit when an invading jungler is in pursuit. Her Q has a high miss rate when she is the one being aggressive. It has an extremely high hit rate when someone ELSE is. Jungle is wide open with thin paths. Not hard to hit at all.

Ok and how do you kill them or stop a half decent play that actually invades you not like a baboon?

You're kidding yourself if you think she can't gank. You communicate with your team. You use your Flash to set up a sure-fire angle if need-be. You gank with Red buff, to ensure faster HP decay. If the laner you are ganking for is in, sometimes you don't even need to hit Q. You just throw it ahead of where they WILL be, so they hesitate and move backwards, toward your laning ally. Then your ally picks up the CC.

You communicate with your team no matter who you jungle as so that is kinda redundant to say. Ok so you gank every 5 minutes because you need flash. Red buff is only effective if you basic attack them which Morgana has extremely low basic attack range.

Anything was possible in the Jungle in 2015. Not really relevant in 2019.

You can play almost anything to Diamond/Masters as long as you are good enough which does not mean the champion or role is good.

You really argue stupid things. If She can't get to a laner to ult, how does she do it in a linear support lane?

Jungle ganks and Mid roams and yeah flashing, but again that is every 5 minutes. Also no one takes hex flash on Morgana.

IllabetheMar 12, 20191 votes

Saying you tried something first isn't always an ego thing. It's just stating a fact that I have literally posted on some of these builds before they were meta, and whether it became meta because people read and tried it, or if they just discovered it later; doesn't matter to me. Point is; you're saying my posts make no sense, and I have literally predicted almost ever meta change correctly.
Keep in mind that W is arguably WORSE off, because it doesn't pass through anymore. It can do a chunk to an individual champion, but in my build I both had + the old , both of which scaled fine on both his Q, W, and E, AND R. He may have more pass through, and may have more AP scaling, but the overall damage boon was already there.
You have no idea what you are talking about. On Nami it's literally a Mana battery to use her Passive to move around the map, while also adding a defensive measure..... you basically don't have to budget your lane. You can spam the rest of the game. And it does CHUNKS of damage. The difference between a Seraph's Nami and a "Meta" Nami on heals isn't much at all. The difference between a Seraph's Nami and a meta Nami on Damage, CC, and mobility is HUGE.

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2996899258/243999882?tab=overview https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2996466691/243999882?tab=stats https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2995371226/243999882?tab=stats https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2894873950/243999882?tab=stats

Sona: https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Sona/ Literally tied with Lich Bane as her best first pick item 7% Pick rate

No. Most people rushed and . Zephyr was a third buy.
They literally had a 0 play rate as on hit. Every single stream was AP Neeko.
No Ego. Just facts.
You don't have to kill them. You just have to take sizeable chunks of their HP. If you still have red buff, you can win almost all trades, because a) you can null any magic damage and b) you have the best CC in the game and c) Red + W scaling = they aren't getting away free. Sometimes a Recall is strong enough. Once you have some items, you will win the trades outright. You can also start a camp, position at an angle to hit a Q, and then drop the camp on them. If they continue to fight, they die to minions + you. If they run, you've healed and won the trade.
I do not need perfect angles for every Q. I have very good predictive play. Courtesy of years of Nami playing.
Trinkets and Jungle items for mages has NEVER BEEN STRONGER THAN NOW. The burn and heals NOW is the highest it's EVER been. In 2015 there were also some mana issues because of how the mana regen worked. Minion damage has ALSO decreased over time.....
So do it. Go rank to Masters. I'd love to see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sgv8Bc7uqPE < Literally built Hexflash. (I know he's a sensational Youtube streamer, but watch the video and what it can do. Otherwise, his build is identical to the meta 60% rune picks of Morganas across the board)

The reason you have no stats for Hexflash is simply because...... It competes with Magical Footwear. Meta nuts always choose less cooldown based actives over simplicity. Fact is, Hexflash is as useful as friggin Teleport is, if not more.

And no. When lanes loosen up, I generally go on 60-70 Second pure skirmish streaks where I pick up 5-6 kills/assists.

NocturnalSheildMar 12, 20191 votes

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I don't need to prove it..... I don't have an ego to inflate and I like my privacy.

Let me ask you this: What about Morgana do you think isn't a jungler?

Weak damage. AP amumu has faster clear, better ganks and just as much CC with bigger burst and bonus because no one expect amumu to deal 3k+ damage in a second.

IllabetheMar 12, 20191 votes

Amumu's strength isn't his damage. It's the fact he can actually miss a champion and still get off his kit.

Don't have a line of sight on a champion? Just Bandage to a nearby minion, and Wham.

You're overestimating his damage though. I can do more with Morgana, and I can clear faster with her. Or rather, once I'm at a camp, since Amumu can just go through walls.

They just play differently.

Amumu chases. Morgana waits in a bush using predictive play knowing where someone's going to be next.

Also, Amumu doesn't have a spell shield.

Let me put it this way: I have yet to be countered by ANY jungler other than Lee Sin on Morgana. Amumu has counters. Amumu you can just build Mag Resist to, and certain melee skirmishers can kill him in an outright duel once they have Armor pen/Sustain.

Morgana on the other hand, gets to block their CC, and keep running, possibly double CC them back, and refresh her kit. If built correctly, she can totally outlast and out duel an Amumu.

I'm going to let you in on a little hint to one of the things I do sometimes when going Morgana jungle.

Sometimes I grab a item 3115 and/or a item 3148 . Yeah Yeah. I know. Lowest Auto attack range mage in the game, and she has her own sustain.

BUT...... Nashors and Gunblade massively speed up her jungle clear, simply by dropping the primary mob low faster, elevating her W damage.

Morgana is also good at creating a captive audience, where they are 200-300 range from her for 3 seconds, and she can be Ulting them at the same time. If as a jungler you build like this, it not only gives you substantial sustain, and AP values, but it unlocks unexpected damage avenues on a champ everyone expects just to be a full AP, behind, low damage "troll pick." It's just something to put her over the edge. Kind of like how people playing her Mid are picking item 3030 as supplementary damage.

Granted, as a laner, I never buy Nashors. But I do occasionally buy the Gunblade, and it changes fights significantly. No one expects a Morgana to kill a Rengar/Jax/Kha in 1 second

IllabetheMar 11, 20191 votes

I was 7/2 in lane :S. Couldn't do much 1v5 though when these guys were inting down mid.

IllabetheMar 11, 20191 votes

Heavily doubt they were smurfs lol. Braum got trashed. I was 7/2 in lane. That's how fast this game collapsed. 7/2 in lane, and then all the inting pretty much meant even if I landed everything on their entire team, they still had 20-30% HP to work with and I couldn't finish them all off alone.

ChrisBrownzeMar 11, 20192 votes

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Heavily doubt they were smurfs lol. Braum got trashed. I was 7/2 in lane. That's how fast this game collapsed. 7/2 in lane, and then all the inting pretty much meant even if I landed everything on their entire team, they still had 20-30% HP to work with and I couldn't finish them all off alone.

The kayn is legit a level 32 account that has won 7 out of his last 8 ranked games. Do you not use op.gg?

IllabetheMar 12, 20191 votes

Oh hey. Bronze I Top Promos:

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2996732943/243999882?tab=overview

Oh look. Bot and Support int feed entire game. They even gave me a heads up in Queue/Champ select; "I dunno. I lost my last game." They literally ran it down lane and had fed bot 16 kills by 10 minutes.

And yeah. I was beating the snot out of Riven. Didn't matter, because team inted a 15 kill bot lane and 5 kill Udyr in 10 minutes. Look at all those blue dots at bot lane. Not a SINGLE red one.

AmamahdethMar 12, 20191 votes

I'm a grandmaster smurf. I don't enjoy making new accounts to play on when my main three are banned but it's a function of the terrible system. Kids get upset when they get smurfed on, but riot is the one keeping me from playing on my main accounts.

ZephyrDrakeMar 12, 20191 votes

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I'm a grandmaster smurf. I don't enjoy making new accounts to play on when my main three are banned but it's a function of the terrible system. Kids get upset when they get smurfed on, but riot is the one keeping me from playing on my main accounts.

you are the one keeping yourself from your non-existent main accounts

ChrisBrownzeMar 12, 20191 votes

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I'm a grandmaster smurf. I don't enjoy making new accounts to play on when my main three are banned but it's a function of the terrible system. Kids get upset when they get smurfed on, but riot is the one keeping me from playing on my main accounts.

Does your dad also work for xbox?

QuephaMar 11, 20192 votes

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