"Diana is fair and balnaced"

Popstar Ahri··6 votes·1,166 views

said no one ever

she is impossible to burst as an assassin

and to kite out of if she manages to land her Q on you as an adc

meanwhile I build item 3155 item 3111 , but it didnt fucking matter anyway, because her R without even her Q still dealt half my damage while she wasnt even ahead nor even levels ahead of me

thanks Riot Im really enjoying seeing her every game

52 Comments

PDE5 Inhib5 votes

lol wut

So we're complaining about Diana now?

Diana is perfectly fine. If anything she is on the weaker side.

Fatalitý4 votes

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lol wut

So we're complaining about Diana now?

Diana is perfectly fine. If anything she is on the weaker side.

I agree she is fine she doesn't need any nerfs but she is definitely not a weaker champion

lol why did I get downvoted?

SaltyKracka4 votes

Assassin main complains about actual balanced champion.

Nothing to see here.

Jasęn2 votes

play panth against diana. watch the light drain from her eyes.

blfUvZ8Ybu2 votes

Diana is fine but she is have broken kit.

She needs to rework.

Cavemantero2 votes

I think her kit is fine and one of the more balanced kits out there. It amazes me how people are complaining about her anyways while LeeSin does everything she does but pretty much better.

I think the problem right now is the ridiculous amount of damage EVERY champ is doing thanks to the new masteries.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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I think her kit is fine and one of the more balanced kits out there. It amazes me how people are complaining about her anyways while LeeSin does everything she does but pretty much better.

I think the problem right now is the ridiculous amount of damage EVERY champ is doing thanks to the new masteries.

No.Did you watch this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jhO4CEHocA

Please you look 1.57

Lee sin isn't full ad.Also Lee has mr.

C9 Scott Free 1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MaU6aEf3,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2016-02-28T23:48:35.389+0000)

No.Did you watch this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jhO4CEHocA

Please you look 1.57

Lee sin isn't full ad.Also Lee has mr.

uh what. where do you see any of Lee's items? His health bar looks like he has 2.5k at themost and he is at half health. How is it unbalanced that someone with 700 AP can do 1200 damage when we cant see items or anything. She barely had any health and if he had used ult before Q she would have died.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=C9 Feel The Bern,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MaU6aEf3,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-29T00:10:40.247+0000)

uh what. where do you see any of Lee's items? His health bar looks like he has 2.5k at themost and he is at half health. How is it unbalanced that someone with 700 AP can do 1200 damage when we cant see items or anything. She barely had any health and if he had used ult before Q she would have died.

You read comments.They said a lot of things.

Brahmsauce2 votes

She is the needed chemo right now in the cancer meta of multiple marksmen and super safe midlaners. When the meta shifts, then yea i'd agree with you.

Dealth2 votes

I agree. Upvoted.

BadmoonBC2 votes

Let me guess you picked zed or Talon into Diana? Yea.. You got countered bro. She's the anti melee assassin

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Let me guess you picked zed or Talon into Diana? Yea.. You got countered bro. She's the anti melee assassin

She counters Cho, Morde and a lot champions.I'm sure Diana can beat Cho gath 1v1.For split push.

l Helios l1 votes

She counters Cho

? Im curious to see details about this. Cho basically countera anyone during lane because he's basically impossible to kill post 6. I mean, all the Cho has to do is poke Diana down and silence her if she lands a Q. Problem solved. Split push sure but during lane...I question your conclusion.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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? Im curious to see details about this. Cho basically countera anyone during lane because he's basically impossible to kill post 6. I mean, all the Cho has to do is poke Diana down and silence her if she lands a Q. Problem solved. Split push sure but during lane...I question your conclusion.

Actually Diana doesn't sweat against Cho.51-49 for Cho.

l Helios l1 votes

That doesn't mean she counters him though. It still favors Cho, even if it is a marginal favorability.

On paper Cho wins imo. Vs. basically anyone.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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That doesn't mean she counters him though. It still favors Cho, even if it is a marginal favorability.

On paper Cho wins imo. Vs. basically anyone.

Cho doesn't win.

l Helios l1 votes

It's not a white wash in any sense.

It's very rare X champion beats Y champion just because they counter them. Half of the matchup is wrapped up in the players playing the champion correctly in a matchup. You just stated earlier that the matchup favors Cho. Unless I'm misunderstanding your phrasing.

51-49 for Cho

If nothing else, given your statistic, the matchup is a skill one.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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It's not a white wash in any sense.

It's very rare X champion beats Y champion just because they counter them. Half of the matchup is wrapped up in the players playing the champion correctly in a matchup. You just stated earlier that the matchup favors Cho. Unless I'm misunderstanding your phrasing.

If nothing else, given your statistic, the matchup is a skill one.

I said my opinion.Lolskill says 50.7 win rate Diana 49.3 Cho. Shortly Cho isn't counter.

Likewise Morde isn't counter.Because her kit changed.Reliable counter only Swain for her.

C9 Scott Free 1 votes

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That doesn't mean she counters him though. It still favors Cho, even if it is a marginal favorability.

On paper Cho wins imo. Vs. basically anyone.

As an avid Diana player it is mostly a farm lane if you just don't get ruptures.

l Helios l1 votes

Sanders 2016

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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? Im curious to see details about this. Cho basically countera anyone during lane because he's basically impossible to kill post 6. I mean, all the Cho has to do is poke Diana down and silence her if she lands a Q. Problem solved. Split push sure but during lane...I question your conclusion.

Post 6 Diana outplayed Cho.100% Exhaust isn't enough.

l Helios l1 votes

What outplay potential does Diana have outside of a double dash (assuming she lands Q and engages off of it)? She has a vacuum aoe and a shield. That's it. If Diana engaged with ult, Cho can just Q under himself, let the knock up do its work, and silence her and walk away. I don't understand how you can say Diana can outplay him when he can stop any engage she offers.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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What outplay potential does Diana have outside of a double dash (assuming she lands Q and engages off of it)? She has a vacuum aoe and a shield. That's it. If Diana engaged with ult, Cho can just Q under himself, let the knock up do its work, and silence her and walk away. I don't understand how you can say Diana can outplay him when he can stop any engage she offers.

Double dash and flash for him q skill.Also Cho has 2 skillshot and his e skill is useless.

I trust only Cho Gath ult and silence.

l Helios l1 votes

So you burn a 5 minute cd summoner spell for a < 10 second cd skill and consider that outplay? What happens if you didn't kill Cho off that initial engage? Your flash is down now and you basically got nothing for it (maybe his flash).

What you should've said was use initial dash for damage to proc thunderlord's, then dash to a minion to dodge the Q. That makes more sense. Regardless, it matters whether or not you can Q poke him down before hand and then if your all in deals enough damage to kill him without him stopping your engage. I question the latter aspect. The former is can concede wouldn't be too hard, assuming you can dodge his poke back.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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So you burn a 5 minute cd summoner spell for a < 10 second cd skill and consider that outplay? What happens if you didn't kill Cho off that initial engage? Your flash is down now and you basically got nothing for it (maybe his flash).

What you should've said was use initial dash for damage to proc thunderlord's, then dash to a minion to dodge the Q. That makes more sense. Regardless, it matters whether or not you can Q poke him down before hand and then if your all in deals enough damage to kill him without him stopping your engage. I question the latter aspect. The former is can concede wouldn't be too hard, assuming you can dodge his poke back.

First paragraph isn't excuse.Diana doesn't need her flash most of the time.

BadmoonBC1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MaU6aEf3,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2016-02-28T23:54:42.749+0000)

She counters Cho, Morde and a lot champions.I'm sure Diana can beat Cho gath 1v1.For split push.

It doesn't matter. My point was he picked an ad melee assassin and Diana shits on them. Then he cries she's op. It's laughable.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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It doesn't matter. My point was he picked an ad melee assassin and Diana shits on them. Then he cries she's op. It's laughable.

Melee champions better than range champions against Diana.

BadmoonBC1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MaU6aEf3,comment-id=0007000000010000,timestamp=2016-02-29T14:34:09.918+0000)

Melee champions better than range champions against Diana.

Uh your just trying to be a dick now and act like you know shit. Obviously Diana has strong matchups with squishies, but she's also one of the best counters in the game for melee squishy assassins. So just like I said, this guy picked zed into Diana and is now crying Diana is op. What's your point ? Yea it's Diana she can 100-0 ranged squishies. But that doesn't mean they arent all so strong/weak against her. My point was I cannot think of a MELEE ASSASSIN that can do well vs Diana. She counters them extremely well. Does she counter other champs better? Who knows? Who cares? I was making a point about the original post.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Uh your just trying to be a dick now and act like you know shit. Obviously Diana has strong matchups with squishies, but she's also one of the best counters in the game for melee squishy assassins. So just like I said, this guy picked zed into Diana and is now crying Diana is op. What's your point ? Yea it's Diana she can 100-0 ranged squishies. But that doesn't mean they arent all so strong/weak against her. My point was I cannot think of a MELEE ASSASSIN that can do well vs Diana. She counters them extremely well. Does she counter other champs better? Who knows? Who cares? I was making a point about the original post.

Swain, Irelia, Fiora or Xerath, Azir, Ahri?

You think?

I prefer first group for her.

BadmoonBC1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MaU6aEf3,comment-id=000700000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-29T14:50:41.569+0000)

Swain, Irelia, Fiora or Xerath, Azir, Ahri?

You think?

I prefer first group for her.

Again for the 100th time. I didn't argue who her counters were, or which champion counters her better/she counters better. I argued that SHE IS A GOOD COUNTER TO MELEE ASSASSINS. Jesus man if you don't understand English don't act like a dick in the language. Also, you are/were only gold to? So wtf was that comment supposed to mean...

Makes no sense and your no even understanding what I'm saying anyways

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Again for the 100th time. I didn't argue who her counters were, or which champion counters her better/she counters better. I argued that SHE IS A GOOD COUNTER TO MELEE ASSASSINS. Jesus man if you don't understand English don't act like a dick in the language. Also, you are/were only gold to? So wtf was that comment supposed to mean...

Makes no sense and your no even understanding what I'm saying anyways

I didn't say melee assassins.Are you blind?

I said Diana is have broken kit.

Did you read first comment?

BadmoonBC1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MaU6aEf3,comment-id=00070000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-29T14:58:03.344+0000)

I didn't say melee assassins.Are you blind?

I said Diana is have broken kit.

Did you read first comment?

I'm not blind I just don't understand the language you speak.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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I'm not blind I just don't understand the language you speak.

Did you follow my comments?

English isn't my native language.So you can see grammar errors.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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I'm not blind I just don't understand the language you speak.

Also yes.You're blind.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Uh your just trying to be a dick now and act like you know shit. Obviously Diana has strong matchups with squishies, but she's also one of the best counters in the game for melee squishy assassins. So just like I said, this guy picked zed into Diana and is now crying Diana is op. What's your point ? Yea it's Diana she can 100-0 ranged squishies. But that doesn't mean they arent all so strong/weak against her. My point was I cannot think of a MELEE ASSASSIN that can do well vs Diana. She counters them extremely well. Does she counter other champs better? Who knows? Who cares? I was making a point about the original post.

They (ranged) are weak against Diana.Completely weak.But you don't know split push.So only Gold.

Original post and bad lie.

BadmoonBC1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MaU6aEf3,comment-id=000700000001000000000001,timestamp=2016-02-29T14:52:11.784+0000)

They (ranged) are weak against Diana.Completely weak.But you don't know split push.So only Gold.

Original post and bad lie.

I don't even know what you mean about bad lie original post. And I do know split push.'I take to on Diana strictly so I can pressure the map late by sitpushing. But let me guess your going to reply with more nonsense posts that are cryptic and no one else can understand. I don't mind that you don't know English, I do mind that your trying to be a complete ass hole to everyone without making sense

C9 Scott Free 1 votes

Did she have a void staff. Did she have a deathcap. IF you bring up your items you have to mention theirs too

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=C9 Feel The Bern,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MaU6aEf3,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-02-29T00:12:02.102+0000)

Did she have a void staff. Did she have a deathcap. IF you bring up your items you have to mention theirs too

Lee sin isn't full ad.Because he hit one shot to Diana.Also did you look level?

18 lvl and this damage to Lee sin.Ridiculous.Diana is have absurd base stats.

C9 Scott Free 1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MaU6aEf3,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2016-02-29T00:14:45.034+0000)

Lee sin isn't full ad.Because he hit one shot to Diana.Also did you look level?

18 lvl and this damage to Lee sin.Ridiculous.Diana is have absurd base stats.

They are both level 18 and it is obviously late game. Assuming full build here lets give Diana 700 AP. Her Q has a .7 scaling her R a .6 and her W if all 3 spheres hit has a .6 ratio as well. .6 plus .6 plus .7 equals 1.9. 700 times 1.9 equals 1330 damage. Her bases are 200 on Q 210 (if all orbs hit) on W and 220 on her R. Thats 1990 damage. This is without runes or masteries too. Look at Lee's health bar. Its at around half health and he only has 12 of those bars and 1 thick bar. Each thick bar is a sign that you have 1000 health. This was not a defensive build Lee Sin. There is also a thunderlords which I don't remember the AP ratio on so lets say it is .2 which would bring her damage up to over 2000 already. He is at 1200 health without the shield. How is it not logical that he would be popped?

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

[{quoted}](name=C9 Feel The Bern,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MaU6aEf3,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2016-02-29T01:13:42.519+0000)

They are both level 18 and it is obviously late game. Assuming full build here lets give Diana 700 AP. Her Q has a .7 scaling her R a .6 and her W if all 3 spheres hit has a .6 ratio as well. .6 plus .6 plus .7 equals 1.9. 700 times 1.9 equals 1330 damage. Her bases are 200 on Q 210 (if all orbs hit) on W and 220 on her R. Thats 1990 damage. This is without runes or masteries too. Look at Lee's health bar. Its at around half health and he only has 12 of those bars and 1 thick bar. Each thick bar is a sign that you have 1000 health. This was not a defensive build Lee Sin. There is also a thunderlords which I don't remember the AP ratio on so lets say it is .2 which would bring her damage up to over 2000 already. He is at 1200 health without the shield. How is it not logical that he would be popped?

Then Diana needs rework.Ridiculous burst, ridiculous base stats.Lee has mr.Why must he also has health?

C9 Scott Free 1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Akatsuki Deidara,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MaU6aEf3,comment-id=0008000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-29T14:35:54.775+0000)

Then Diana needs rework.Ridiculous burst, ridiculous base stats.Lee has mr.Why must he also has health?

Void staff cuts out 35% of his MR immediately. Sorc boots plus spell pen blues and abyssaly scepter would cut out 42 MR roughly. That's why he needs health. Everyone knows resistances don't mean Shit without health. Let's say all he built was merc treads then at the most he would have 100 MR with runes. Cut out 35 from void staff. Then subtract the 42 and he is sitting at 23 MR which is less than you start the game with. Respect your opponents damage type or die. Also her base damage is pretty balanced when you factor in most mages have similar outputs. Ori ult has a higher base and is AOE should she be nerfed?

Shahamut1 votes

play trundle. Beat Diana.

Randomonium1 votes

Diana is only strong right now because everybody loves playing squishy ADs. She's designed to wreck assassins and ADCs. However, unlike most assassins she doesn't have any form of escape so she is very susceptible to CC and ganking.

And hell, even though the meta favors her right now her win rate isn't amazing or anything.

She's fine, no need to buff or nerf.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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Diana is only strong right now because everybody loves playing squishy ADs. She's designed to wreck assassins and ADCs. However, unlike most assassins she doesn't have any form of escape so she is very susceptible to CC and ganking.

And hell, even though the meta favors her right now her win rate isn't amazing or anything.

She's fine, no need to buff or nerf.

Well! Rework? Heavy snowball.

Yes I agree.Diana is fine but she needs to rework.

Randomonium1 votes

As far as reworks go I would put her pretty far down the list. There's so many other champions that need love right now more than her. She has clearly defined strengths and weaknesses. Can she snowball? Yes, but no more than most other assasins. Should we rework every champion just because they can snowball out of control when fed?

I'd say the opposite is more true. If a champion CAN'T snowball when fed they should be high on the rework priority list.

blfUvZ8Ybu1 votes

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As far as reworks go I would put her pretty far down the list. There's so many other champions that need love right now more than her. She has clearly defined strengths and weaknesses. Can she snowball? Yes, but no more than most other assasins. Should we rework every champion just because they can snowball out of control when fed?

I'd say the opposite is more true. If a champion CAN'T snowball when fed they should be high on the rework priority list.

But this meta is very good for Diana.Also very bad for ap mages.

So Diana hurts a lot of champions.

BadmoonBC1 votes

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Diana is only strong right now because everybody loves playing squishy ADs. She's designed to wreck assassins and ADCs. However, unlike most assassins she doesn't have any form of escape so she is very susceptible to CC and ganking.

And hell, even though the meta favors her right now her win rate isn't amazing or anything.

She's fine, no need to buff or nerf.

This guy gets it

WarlockLaw1 votes

She abuses a strong item, she is still a weaker jungle than Nid and Elise just a tad more snowbally.

TeemoXNidalee1 votes

just pick lux and 1shot her if she dares to jump you

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