Shield effects on champions that are already shielded are now 50% as effective

no to all of this...since when was shield stacking a problem?there are not enough shields in the game to even warrant such a huge nerf....

Why though?

Last game our blitz grabbed the enemy syndra, but her team had both with their shield items, so instead of she popping like a party balloon, she tanked our whole team.

The problem is not tanks shielding themselves, that's their jobs. What's stupid is when a squishy guy fucks up, but doesn't die because of shield spam.

No

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If those changes go through

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er mah gerd damage is too high squishies die in a second er mah gerd shields are too high, can't kill squishies in a second

if we nerf shields we go back to problem 1

Lifesteal is now half as effective on critical hits.

50% is a bit brutal, but this is a good idea.

Although I agree that shields are stupid atm I don't like this change. I think we should just nerf the shields themselves Shield stacking was never really an issue in the past. It's an issue now because of all the shield increasing stats.

Why would you want to nerf my 7 shield janna!?

So, I'm seeing some pushback on you here. I think both sides have good points.

Something to consider, though; locket is now going to be much less effective on people that are not stacking health. I think that's going to help cut down a LOT on this problem. Ivern is getting hit kinda hard through the item changes on 7.13. I'm interested to see how the dust settles on that.

If you have time, drop in on surrenderat20.net and let me know what you think about those item changes, as it relates to this problem.

Imo this is a great change.

1. When shields are stacked on a target and they have a full health bar with the damage of a burst mage, it's pretty nuts.
2. This will make people actually want to wait to stack shields on a target, so that after the first one ends they shield them again, meaning more counterplay if you can get in there in that tiny window to blow them up. Or even better, they'll spread their shields to the group rather than shield one target so that AOE threats aren't as problematic, and you can actually assassinate someone if you're meant to without going in on an extremely tiny window.

Isn't this just going to nerf enchanter supports?

OH NO SOMEONE HELP ME I'm coming! WTF YOUR ULT SHIELDS FOR NOTHING You used your W...

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Shield stacking is now closer to being balanced.

Yeah, how about leave the game design and balance to the professionals.

Damn, stacking 's Ult + E with was one of the most lowkey-broken teamfight maneuvers.....hopefully it still works at least marginally-well Q___Q

Counterintuitive change just because someone lost to the "Protect the Carry" team compostions, one of the few legit Team Comps in this game...

Can we at least prioritize the strongest active shield? The idea is good, but if rakan for example gets a big shield on top of his small passive shield, he'd basically never get a effective shield.