Can we ff in champ select?

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My attitude is very negative to the op's sentiment that games are ended in lobby. My frustration with folks who hold this view has resulted in me being more dickish then necessary but I just don't see the point in playing lol if one only wants to cherry pick games in the lobby. You don't wanna play matches unless you know your going into things with advantageous comps and match ups, and your gonna nit pick every choice teammates make? Fine, dodge or 5 man. You wanting to just give the enemy team a win because your unwilling to play out harder matches.... cool that's the same logic feeders use to justify their behavior.

The suggestion to add FF to lobby is foolish, provides nothing of value to the game, would be exploited to troll, further enforces what's perceived as meta, and exemplifies a defeatist attitude that I have only distain for. The uninstall comment was excessive and unnecessary on my end but the fact remains I hate quitters who don't even give a match an effort slightly less then trolls. So my bad for instantly being a prick, I am willing apologies if it hurt the op's feelings, but I remain very opposed to folks who want to quit or give up at the expense of their teammates.

Fair enough. Adding FF to the lobby would easily be abused.

So much this. Especially when we have a late game comp and someone decides at 10 min its over and starts feeding instead of playing safe until we scale.

To be 100% there is a very very VERY small chance to get into a lobby where everyone is flaming each other from the get go. Those kind of teams is best to be avoided. Which thank god we can dodge.

See here's the thing, the OP is not saying anything about getting people to pick meta or to be an ass to your teammates if they don't cherry pick.

He's stating that games are determined before its over based on the current state of league of legends. You can look at the stats, games are short as hell these days.

Furthermore things like towers and damage are so messed up, it's overall driving this whole player base insane and very doubtful about games their in. I have dodged games not because I doubt my teammates it's because I just know the enemy team's Ezreal without a doubt will snowball even after one kill (and yes I do ask for my team to ban Ezreal, some don't which is fine). And that's not healthy thing at all. I myself have been banning Missfortune because every single game I had against her is just very infuriating.

And no, scaling is very hard to achieve in games now a days because the nexus blows up before even reaching that point. This is not me doubting this is just a simple fact based on the games I've played. When my bot lane loses, all power of the game will go to their ADC, that's what the game is now. I main top and even if I do very well in my lane, sometimes I can't really even do much against their ADC.

I try every single game no matter the results that are produced but the point is, this game snowballs too fast and just simply destroys any means of scaling or attempting to come back.

Now one more thing, if you make a point that masters/challengers are able to come back/scale earlier. Yes that's very much true because their challengers and they know how to come back since they can adapt very easily. But even some admitted like sneaky, that the game has way too much damage and it snow balls too fast.

I'll admit the title is a bit dumb, I don't support adding an ff feature in lobby because I dodge if I don't like the enemy team comp. And you may say not to doubt my teammates on this point but I'll respond by, I shouldn't doubt the enemies either. Especially if they're on champs that have lots of damage, scale quickly and snowball fast. I just want games that are even in power.

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"If Riven builds on the really tanky side"

I don't know if serious or trolling...

Not as tanky as a full tank but can take a beating.