Can we just accept that Zoe is a bad champion design and loading summoner spells on W is asinine?

Horse Grenades··10 votes·1,677 views

She hits an unbelievably generous CC spell with increased range from over a wall, and takes 3/4 of your hp bar and then ends up back where she started 1 sec later. If u catch her out she can flash with W, flash again, and heal her team with redemption.

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5050BS6 votes

What do you expect from the creator of Yasuo. Stupid overloaded burst champs that with moderate skill can dominate most champs.

redniwediS3 votes

Out of every part of her kit I could think to complain about W never really comes to mind. It's odd, RNG, and has a lot of hidden power (which Riot should be against), but it doesn't feel like bad design to me.

Horse Grenades2 votes

How can having access to spells every 30 sec that every other champ has access to every 3-6 min be balanced? You literally just said it has " a lot of hidden power" you don't think that's bad design?

redniwediS1 votes

Whether it's balanced or not is different from whether the design of it is good. I think W needs to be a little more noticeable and telegraphed, though I'm not really sure how that would be done, but the base idea of it is reasonable.

Horse Grenades2 votes

We'll have to a agree to disagree. The reason it is unbalanced is because it's a bullshit mechanic due to its bad design.

redniwediS3 votes

I definitely won't count it out as a possibility, I just don't see it when I play against her. Maybe it will be a little more clear to me when she gets some number changes to her Q and E, because when I look at her that's what I end up focusing on.

UnboundHades2 votes

Well knowing the champ desinger did you expect more

Kitten of Evil1 votes

What if they indicate what spell a balloon minion is going to drop before it drops it?

5050BS1 votes

Im with you on this. I was lvl 2 out playing this Zoe and she picks up item 3146 ......

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Head Connoisseur1 votes

Name one summoner spell or item active that has a 6 minute cool down. I'll wait.

Dead flag blues3 votes

Let me just post again this masterpiece that happened to me during the game (I was the Zoe here). We were level 2

https://i.gyazo.com/c96c41665de684c7a04e998504e7fcb4.mp4

Niyume2 votes

Can we just accept that Zoe is VERY telegraphed, all skillshots, very squishy, immobile and really easy to play against?

And your situation there doesn't happen, sorry.

undesirable team2 votes

idk its really hard to play against when you cant do shit in lane due to her poke past your minion wave, then she continues to e you and q you again (low cd) and nuke your health bar

Niyume2 votes

So... you do know how her kit works, right? If you keep minions between you and her Q / E... it never hits you. They both also go in straight lines, so if you walk, you know, perpendicular to it, it also doesn't hit you.

And if you play someone with a lot of long range poke, like Lux, Ziggs, Xerath, Anivia and so on, she just can't do anything, and you win lane.

undesirable team1 votes

she can redirect her q midflight and it does a shitton of base damage tbh, this combo'd with an auto is cancer. anivia doesnt have long range poke b t w

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