Akali has now taken the place of Yasuo on my "Most Obnoxious Champions" list

Horse Grenades·Jul 26, 2017·86 votes·5,145 views

Not only did we nerf into the ground which was a HUGE inadvertent buff to you then let her dash over walls in her shroud, stay in her shroud for longer, and buffed her W! She is an absolute nightmare to play against.

Edit: I should note, I'm not even calling her OP per se. She's just obnoxious to play against. The buffs to Ekko were unnecessary, the direct and indirect buffs to Akali just take away so much solo q counter play.

129 Comments

Commander JavikJul 26, 201760 votes

I hate when i have to play against Akali . No matter what you do , she'll stay under turret , throw Q and do nothing until 6 when she starts to rape everyone.

Serika ZeroJul 26, 20179 votes

Then you play against a bad akali player or you play a hero that hard counters her. Coming from someone that mained her in season 6 and most of this season as well.

Tho, akali should be in a bad spot right now if we were to follow the lcs meta (tanks) and her buff won't help with that. But, as long as players prefer to play squishy champions in multiple roles, the akali buff just gives her more trading opportunities in lane. Something the bad akali players you are facing (sit only under tower until 6) will not abuse. However, skilled ( or experienced if you want another word) akali players will be more obnoxious than before

Imperial JapanJul 27, 20176 votes

People don't like hearing the truth lol

Serika ZeroJul 27, 20176 votes

its a common reaction, got used to it a lot of what i say its against the collective beliefs, so, i'll get downvoted for it. but if it helps a single person, then, its great ^^

RyrynounetJul 27, 20175 votes

proceed to upvote discreetly

rtbf225618241Jul 27, 20173 votes

Yeah because Akali only plays against that 1 hard counter throughout the whole game and will never roam.

sigh

Serika ZeroJul 27, 20172 votes

yes, that's precisely what the guy i've replayed to says she does. At least till 6 (to this part i also agree, partially, akali can't fight tanks unless feed). at which i replied he plays against a bad akali players, if they only stay under tower until 6 and don't try to trade.

And you somehow magically believe that she can roam before lv6. should i also reply the sigh towards you and act condescending as well?

BlackHairedGirlJul 27, 20171 votes

"Hero"?

Serika ZeroJul 28, 20172 votes

champion, hero same thing. Are you that annoyed that i like using heroes instead of champions?

in my eyes none of them are champions ever since the justice league lore got scrapped

RainbowIceeJul 27, 201716 votes

At least she's cute and sexy.

Akali is SO HOTJul 27, 201716 votes

ZedexJul 27, 20175 votes

name checks out

KuroCaliberJul 28, 20171 votes

Upvoted for good taste.

NoblewindJul 26, 201732 votes

She has always been my most hated champion to face in the entire game.

You can win by CS, kill her etc, doesn't matter because 1 item is all she needs to point click combo you to 50% health, while sustaining whatever damage you did back, then just waits to rinse repeat until you die, it's so frustrating. All other assassins now have something you can do to outplay or avoid, even Zed's unavoidable gap close comes with the telegraphed delay after ulting. Akali though remains with the key counterplay being to always stand half a screen away from her.

I'm not even saying she's strong or that unfair as a whole, I just genuinely despise this champion.

Mael broJul 26, 201714 votes

Well Akali was always known to be the assassin for "noobs"

StaliniumJul 26, 20174 votes

"assassin" hehe funny you should say... I build Akali item 3146 item 3157 item 3065 item 3143 item 3111 and sometimes item 3115 whenever I play her on Ascension

takes a couple rotations to kill but idek what taking damage is

Serika ZeroJul 27, 20173 votes

unless you want to put NA challanger tier players as "noobs". The nr1 challanger https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=tfblade has over 60% win rate on akali.

And, that's the before buff Akali. And yeh, over 50% of the games he played in ranked are on Akali

cocacolalipsJul 26, 20173 votes

odd, I've always found akali to be a fun match-up, all her skills are really telegraphed, you know what she gonna do before she does it, she has no obnoxious spell or anything like a stun that prevents you from playing the game, she can't really poke or run away, she is melee, her burst is pretty low, she needs several combos to kill someone, and her shroud invites mind games and mind games are fun.

what kind of champion are you playing?

champions like rengar, khazix or diana are a lot more obnoxious imo, with their one shot gameplay, especially khazix, who is essentially akali on steroids.

DuskDaUmbreonJul 26, 20173 votes

Not only that, her point and click abilities are pathetic damage on their own. A Q, even at max rank, barely tickles anyone. Her damage comes from the Q>AA proc, and the second hit of her passive. Honestly, every other ability of hers has laughable damage against a single target.

cocacolalipsJul 26, 20172 votes

her average combo to kill someone over 3 ish seconds is gunblade-Q-R-AA-E-AA-W-Q-R-AA-E-AA. She has to use shroud to wait for her Q E cooldown to be back up, leaving vulnerable to counter attack and stuff.

meanwhile Khazix can E-W-Q (optional AA + optional R-Q-AA) with duskblade proc and instantly kill you rofl, while also having unrestricted mobility (can jump wherever) and unrestricted invisibility (can be invisible wherever). Fair.

DuskDaUmbreonJul 26, 20177 votes

Well. While Kha'zix is rather strong, let's be fair. You have to be Isolated (or VERY squishy) for him to instakill you.

cocacolalipsJul 26, 20172 votes

That's isolated yes, and well akali still has her sustain so there is that, still, one of the two feels a lot of worse to play against imo and it's not akali hah. Even chasing a khazix is hard af seriously with the jump away & invisibility & slow spam.

48983507DEL1Jul 26, 20172 votes

Akali's counterplay is praying that your Support knows how to use Exhaust and Locket.

deadlychuckJul 26, 201726 votes

I remember when the strategy for beating akali, was to feed her all of the enemy's kills, and then in the mid-late game, focus her and remove the majority of the enemy's gold advantage.

RekretJul 26, 20179 votes

Its because of a weak laning phase , she is utter shit untill she reaches level 6. If you go against her you NEED to punish her for farming. its an absolute must , postpone her gunblade buy as long as humanly possible. Another tip : her burst comes from her passive now. the first AA when passive is up gives her extra damage , the second AA gives her heal. Abuse these facts and take someone like brand or lux or people with strong CC. ALWAYS PING WHEN SHE LEAVES THE LANE. and get both mr and armor against her

Akali is strong because in low ELO nobody does any of those things :D

The WhamboozlerJul 26, 20173 votes

Ok... so say I'm playing Lux mid. I need to bully the shit outta her early. Ok, that's easy, I have her outranged.

I have to ping if she's ever MIA. Also easy.

I have to prevent her auto-attacks on me. Um... that's a little rough past 6 when she can spam dashes at me, but maybe if I land a good Q at her when she flies at me and stay near tower I'll be ok.

I need to build MR and Armor. And AP. And CDR. So I need to invest in 4 stats to actually matter in the game but also stop her from point-and-clicking me to death instantly once she has ONE item. And I still need to hug tower like it's a lifevest and I'm drowning, because even with defensive items I'm dead if she catches me away from mine. This is the part that seems kinda obnoxious to me. This isn't really advice man. "Build tank stats and the assassin can't burst you" is valid advice, yeah... but not everyone can get the kind of defenses it takes to stop an assassin into their build.

Also can I say that rating Lux as someone with "strong CC" made me laugh. A single binding that she an miss isn't really strong CC. Perhaps you were thinking of Annie? Malzahar? Y'know... people who are good vs assassins with point and click lockdown? Lux is assassin-bait. They're one of her strongest counters.

cocacolalipsJul 26, 20175 votes

keep your distance and just poke with E-AA all game (even inside her shroud) and keep your Q for when she dashes you.

akali R always dashes behind her target, you can use that to land Q as she dashes behind you and most likely 100-0 her with a full combo. akali is really weak into ranged champions, especially the ones with CC and AoE spells.

she cant really do anything, she stands back she gets poked down, she tries to engage she dies, it's a loss-loss. she only wins if you make a mistake and try to Q aggressively and miss it.

LimrickJul 26, 20175 votes

Only if Akali is really bad will that work. First, E-AA doesn't work once she has shroud up. Sure, the E hits, but you can't auto to proc it when she's invis. And since her shroud lasts twice as long as Illumination, you basically do nothing. Akali heals back more damage than E does with her first auto if she has even just a revolver.

Second, if Akali dashes to you with more than one charge, you're fucked. You snare her mid-air, and she stops right behind you. Now you either turn and try to burst her, which you can't because she is in range to heal off of you, or you try to run and she just dashes again when it's back up. The only way you can conceivably win is if you flash her dash and then combo. If you have enough AP, it should kill her, but if not, you're still fucked.

You can bully her easy peasy before 6, but the second she hits it, you're her bitch for the rest of laning. Same idea as Fizz, Zed, Yasuo, or any other melee into Lux. Once she has Gunblade, it doesn't matter if you have 4 kills on her, she will annihilate you. The only way you beat Akali as Lux is with ganks. Other than that you just look to win teamfights, since Akali is a garbage teamfighter.

cocacolalipsJul 27, 20171 votes

Lux E cooldown is half akali's shroud cooldown zzz, you can E twice per shroud, she certainly doesn't sustain much when she can only farm minions with shroud up, she gets zoned/harrased really bad when her shroud is down, she is not gonna sits in her shroud doing nothing, she is going to use it to farm minions, at which point you can AA her.

Lux is a counterpick match-up for Akali, it's one of her worst match-up, although she has dozens of them mid lane, literally any mage with aoe and cc craps on her, if you are losing as Lux, you are playing poorly. being good as Akali doesnt change anything since she doesn't have the initiative. Lux has to make a mistake first for Akali to win the duel.

LimrickJul 27, 20172 votes

Lux E cooldown is only 3 seconds less cooldown at each rank than Akali's shroud, the reason it seems like more is that Lux rushes CDR. I've played both sides of the matchup, Akali wins 9/10 times. Lux doesn't have the DPS to bite through Akali's sustain, especially with Gunblade. If you let Lux zone you that hard that you have to use shroud to even CS, you're doing it wrong. Farm with Q, when Lux throws an E, shroud to avoid being autod, skirt outside her auto range and push as fast as you can with E, since Lux E has a long cooldown early. Repeat until you hit 6, then wait for 2 charges and all in with ignite and kill her. It's super easy. Even if Lux stays waaaaaay back to avoid the all-in, she has to farm with E at that point, which costs 130 mana a pop at max rank, and has a decently long cooldown. Shove her under tower and roam, then try to snowball the game out of control before you fall off. If both champs are played correctly, Akali dominates laning.

cocacolalipsJul 27, 20172 votes

you are just wrong sorry, lux dumpsters akali at every elo, from bronze to diamond and stats show it http://bronze.lolalytics.com/champion/Akali/Middle/counters/ http://lolalytics.com/champion/Akali/Middle/counters/ and the reason is exactly the same as to why annie or xerath, or ahri dumpsters her, AoE and CC, AoE to harrass her and ignore her shroud and CC to counter her all-in.

the problem is that you are bronze and you have never played against a good player, people don't realise how bad ranged vs melee match-up are at low elo, it's really really bad for the melee champion, good players will zone you super hard with AA and spells all day long every other second, bam AA, bam spell, and you can't fight back without losing even more health.

LimrickJul 27, 20171 votes

Why are you pulling up bronze stats at all? I'm not even Bronze lmao. Melee vs. Ranged is only bad pre-6, the game is designed with these matchups in mind lol. Lux has no mobility and Akali has 4 dashes. Plus lolalytics is never accurate lol, the second they say Lux has a normally 50% winrate in plat they lose all credibility.

You clearly have no clue what you're talking about lol, that's why you're calling me bronze (which isn't even true). If you wanna stay ignorant and defend a toxic champ, that's on you buddy, have a nice day. :)

cocacolalipsJul 27, 20171 votes

K mr bronze, you clearly know better than the hundreds of thousands bronze-silver-gold-platinum-diamond combined players who play the game every week, have fun smacking some bronze lux booty with your awesome bronze akali skills rofl.

LimrickJul 28, 20171 votes

I mean I'm literally not Bronze but alright dude, will do.

zaire90Jul 26, 20171 votes

If you can keep her down laning phase and stay ahead all its going to take is one q to set up your burst combo then shes going to be scared to go in on you

General Esdeath Jul 26, 20179 votes

I've hated her since the rework, but you know, boards call you bronzie and then it becomes a problem when numbers change :^)

SambersJul 26, 20176 votes

That champion is so badly designed is not even funny, no matter what you do vs her in lane, as soon as she hits 6 there's little to nothing you can do to avoid losing 40 to 50% of you health by just her pressing buttons...

RankOneUgandaJul 27, 20173 votes

am pretty sure she can 100-0 with ignite and that gunblade first component

VasilisGreenJul 27, 20172 votes

She can... And there's nothing you can do to stop it. Isn't that fun to play against? I remember a time when i could pick mah boy Zed and fuck her brains out but now this doesn't happen. No pink wards for me, she has a free heal and she basicaly negates all my SKILLSHOT based poke with that passive heal and of course she can chunk me down bit by bit with her point and click Q. Isn't that great?

Irelia BotJul 28, 20171 votes

Almost as fun as having to deal with a marksmen right clicking.

VasilisGreenJul 28, 20171 votes

Well, yeah, Marksmen are full right click champs with some spells as bonuses and they have range advantage. But at least you can oneshot them or at least keep out of their firing range, they have no way to come at your face if you keep away. Akali tho is a different matter.

KarakotJul 26, 20175 votes

has been preaching about how much he hates akali for so long and now everyone else hates her

Sraeg2013Jul 26, 20174 votes

I hated her since Pre-Season 3. You?

AirKingNeoJul 26, 20175 votes

Akali also perma sustains.

ModCaptainMårvelousJul 27, 20173 votes

Well, we always say how much we want Season 2 back...

YuyiyoJul 26, 20171 votes

I'm okay with her W, I just think her Q should have a longer cooldown or deal less damage, it's obnoxious when her main source of damage is not only point and click but just chunks so much health. She's like a reverse pantheon, weak lane but still has the fact that the main source of damage is unavoidable (point and click) for most champions 1v1'ing her. Assassins with unavoidable damage suck. A zed or leblanc at least has to try to kill you, akali just spams abilities.

My opinion, at least.

Serika ZeroJul 26, 20175 votes

She is quite weak in the late game when people group up. Tho it honestly depends on the players and team comps. But you can either trust me or play her yourself. Akali is very hard to use in late game. Because her skill set is only 'forward' and a few nuances to buy time (zhonias and w). But this aspect makes her fun and gives an adrenaline rush..because, if you suck, you fuck up hard.

And even after maining her for more than a year. I still have troubles sometimes executing late game team fights properly on her. Oh, did i mentioned you relly heavily on your team mates in that stage of the game, like, almost every other hero? She's not a 1v9 champion. But she is a great assassin for mid game