True steal should not be a thing.

AR URF·May 29, 2017·1 votes·302 views

ADC's are at a huge disadvantage when it comes to true stealth. That's why i think it should be abolished.

7 Comments

PhelasMay 29, 20174 votes

Because one class has to actually think what to do when enemies have stealth it should be removed?

Hell naw, true stealth is neithe opressive nor are adcs in a weak state in any regard which would justify something like that.

Edit: And in your other post here, you were ranting about Assassins killing you fast. Have you played before the Assassin update? They added even delay to their burst to give, you guessed it right, ADCs the opportunity of counterplay. ADCs and suffering in the same sentence my ass.

GankedByWindowsMay 29, 20171 votes

So? Stealth is made so they can get to the ADCs. This is coming from an adc main too. You can't make us invincible by removing all your enemies tools. Assassins are good against adcs too, should we remove them all?

Also, what about Vayne? Should she have her stealth removed?

AR URFMay 29, 20171 votes

Vaynes stealth is one second, not 5 like a maxed out shaco q or whatever.

Nanuk PihoqahiakMay 29, 20171 votes

Her stealth is one second spread over the course of an 8 / 10 / 12 second ultimate. Her Tumble is a 2 second cooldown, and in a pefect world she'd have 6 Tumbles for 6 seconds of stealth during a fight. She obviously isn't playing with perfect latency and will likely get 4-5. Even then, she's stealthing and picking away at you from range, typically with a full ADC build lategame.

Obviously we're not here to debate Vayne, but her stealth is an abomination that makes non-targeted CC blind luck to land.

AR URFMay 29, 20171 votes

Anyway the problem is true stealth. So getting rid of vayne's true stealth is part of it. And assassins are supposed to take out adcs i get that, but with a burst assassin that can pretty much kill you almost instantly, that's no fun and not every adc has mobility like tristana,lucian or ezreal. You have adc's like miss fortune, caitlyn, jinx etc who are really going to suffer. I'm a season 3 player, back in the day when there were pink wards that would go invisible. The whole point of warding was to prevent ganks.

GankedByWindowsMay 29, 20171 votes

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Anyway the problem is true stealth. So getting rid of vayne's true stealth is part of it. And assassins are supposed to take out adcs i get that, but with a burst assassin that can pretty much kill you almost instantly, that's no fun and not every adc has mobility like tristana,lucian or ezreal. You have adc's like miss fortune, caitlyn, jinx etc who are really going to suffer.

Absolutely. That is why you need to position properly, and you even have a character who is dedicated to keeping you alive. Just because something counters you doesn't mean it should be removed.

I'm a season 3 player, back in the day when there were pink wards that would go invisible. The whole point of warding was to prevent ganks.

I'm not sure why this is relevant. They still prevent ganks without the stealth. Assassins who rely on stealth to assassinate won't have the same usefulness once you remove it unless you're proposing they get compensation like pinks did (infinite duration). But I don't think you want to give them more burst either.