Please just get rid of Mage-phite (Just my opinion)

Goju·3/18/2019, 7:08:18 PM·1 votes·1,513 views

(Pre-Post Disclaimer : I am not a challenger Tier player - I do not play ranked, but I have played League since Season 1-2 - so i been here for a bit and what follows is MY view on things - if you agree, great, if you disagree , understandable, but thanks for reading, either way)

Do not mistake me, I get why the AP ratios are there, but Malphite at his core was and should be a tank - tired of people going FULL AP Malphite.. , and unless your good at it , its non-team orientated and normally goes one of two ways -- the Malphite ruins the game for his team, OR He is good at it and destroys the game from level 6 on by popping people.

I am not saying there are not people out there that do play Mage-phite as a team player. But i have not had the honor or privilege of ever getting one of these "diamonds in the rough."

As a person who plays a lot of tanks/support, It hurts every time i see one of these, I mean , Alistar has AP ratios.. and a ulti that gives %DR, why not go item 3007 item 3285 item 3089 ect ect on him? The answer is obvious, 1) while he has ap ratios, (they suck cough ) he is mainly a support /tank, and it benefits the team better to play him as such. 2) his CD's and kit do not support a full mage play-style - 3) his mana would never support it either, lol (Disclaimer :the above are MY views, on him and not actual "facts", im sure someone out there is a plat mage Alistar )

Personally i think 99% of the "tanks" should take a page from the Ornn playbook.. he has 1 ability that scales with AD (his Q) one that scales with AP,(His Ult) and one that scales with Armor/MR - (his E)

this means that you can build kinda bruiser, but its better, for the team and for the champ to build as a tank with what ever you choose, ad/ap as a secondary.

With the current changes to most of my most beloved tanks, 80% of the populace no longer plays them as teamwork tanks, rather opting for the full mage. For example Maokai using Dark Harvest and Triumph - (which is busted as hell by the way, you can get like 40 second ultis, and if you use - , wait , not the point of this. Personally i thought Old Mao was much more teamwork orientated - building tank and standing in your team with his DR ulti - )

I mean they have all but kicked most tank in the nether-regions in league already with things like Vayne +item 3124 and item 3149 -every 2nd shot is %HP True dmg- as well as champs like Velkoz and the current idea of giving out True Damage with free samples of Tide in the mail.

I would like to see tanks get scaling based on building what they should be - tanks - HP/Armor/MR ratios - maybe low ap or ad ratio ect. To supplement --

Truth be told, - going a full AP tank should be like going full AP Ashe - yea its fun to goof on , yea it makes her R - pop people like a balloon, but its really not role she should be in .

The Current set up that Mage set ups are 75% more effective on tanks then building tanks is ..so i get WHY they do it , But in my mind a full mage tank just destroys the teamwork aspect that a tank should be living around, like blocking abilities for people, getting in the way of damage, and protecting the squishes.

Just my **opinion **- and after 2-3 games of getting the bad luck of having a team player take Mage-phite build no tank, and just fail horridly, I had a rant build up --Sorry for Length..

Good luck in your games.

14 Comments

Paroe3/18/2019, 7:54:06 PM6 votes

Homogenization ad pigeonholing ARE NEVER GOOD THINGS. By removing the versatility and forcing a champion into a singular build or playstyle you effectively remove any and all ability of theirs to adapt to itemization changes on the fly.

If anything, tanks with AP scaling like Braum, Leona, Rammus, and Malphite should be shifted to the much more synergistic and powerful AD bruiser itemization instead of being forced into a much weaker and less synergistic AP itemization if they want to do damage.

Done253/18/2019, 8:08:18 PM3 votes

You know how you stop AP Malphite? Same way you do every other squishy AP burst mage. Build a Banshee, a Guardian Angel (or new PD), or a Maw.

After AP Malphite burns his combo he is done, and now he's in the middle of a very pissed off enemy team.

Ragnaveil3/18/2019, 7:48:28 PM1 votes

This would also solve the issue of Sylas taking his ult and doing more with it than Malph can. I vouch on this as a Sylas main myself. Anytime I see the enemy pick Malph when I pick Sylas, my immediate thought is, "Welp, 2 people gonna die tonight (their botlane)."

MankeyMadness3/18/2019, 7:49:28 PM1 votes

Its similar in concept to AD Thresh or Trinity Blitzcrank - Yes your E empowered Autos will blow up any squishies but its hard to play. .

Solo lane Thresh does still work as a semi-serious mid laner but youre not going to build it Support. (item 3031 item 3147 item 3087 item 3046 )

Alzon3/18/2019, 7:52:59 PM1 votes

I prefer taking Lethal Tempo and maxing W while building full tank, over building AP. But typically AP is more “optimal”, and it is the ONLY way you can possibly play Malphite against a ranged top laner.