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Why is Riot trying to kill off Tanks?

Goju··3 votes·882 views

I have played since there were 13 champions, loved to play tanks, and support, i can adc if i try, and mage middle is ok , i suck at jungle, but what the hey.

My question is this.. what did tanks ever do to you Riot?
item 3153 - +25 attack dmg, +40% attack speed, 10% life steal and % max health in physical damage.. with a active that not only slows, but does % max health damage as well. 3400 gold

item 3036 - 40 attack damage, +40% Armor pen - % bonus physical dmg based on how much more hp the Champion has then you . 2700 gold

Now.. i highlight these items because they are the most used. I am all for balance and enjoyment, but this is not balance, this is letting people run rough-shot over anyone building tanky at all. Yes, its Physical damage, perhaps if you had enough armor, BORK would not be so bad. however, with 40% Armor reduction, its crazy overpowered.

Gold wise, you spent , what 6100 gold on these two items. now from what i have read on like your looking a average of 15-18k gold per game. (normals) ARAMs 6k gold is a drop in teh bucket,

so adding boots in your spending 6400 gold. with a gold gain item (such as item 3303 ) it takes no time at all.

And the best part.. there is NO counter!! either avoid the person , ( and don't do your job as a tank) or go in and enjoy there swift swift victory... lets not get into champions who make this combo even more outrageous, not saying any names, but Vayne i am looking at you. (silver bolts of the whispering King)

Now, I know what your thinking, you saying , "Goju you crybaby newb putz, you counter BORK by getting armor! and you counter Regrets by getting.. less .. wait.. less HP... i mean, if you a TON of armor and no hp , you will be fine.. right?"

Original Last Whisper did Armor pen, cutting your armor nearly in half, hurt, but it was sustainable... if you grabbed a good amount of HP, now you can even get a good amount of HP cuz, well, it does bonus dmg based on how much HP you have over the non hp buying ADC!

IF i am missing some wondrous item, that will combat these effectively, I apologize.. but as it sits, something needs to be done, mitigating 6-21% damage, (depending on HP) with your armor cut by 40% in neigh impossible, and hope, they don't have a damn item 3057 . (kinda wonder now if that % damage as physical is doubled as well by sheen, hmm)

I like league, and I enjoy playing, no matter what ill still end up playing im sure, just not normal or ranked, prolly ARAMs over and over, like I do . But something, needs to be done, they gave tanks a HP item with gold gain and everyone lost there mind, but they have ADCs the ability to not only do high damage, but increase it by 6-21% AND take way 40% armor, and everyone is like.. ok ,why not.

Sorry , I need to rant, and you can ignore me if you like, or call me names, or flame me, ill take it, but i stand by my opinion, this is out of the range of overpower and into a whole new realm of WTF crack smoker....

Thanks for taking the time to read, and enjoy the game out there .

5 Comments

iTziLLiRL2 votes

its 40% of BONUS armor, they also buffed armor values for champs, so having like 100 armor late game is normal(Without armor items) there are also many masteries to help reduce dmg and crit dmg from randuins. Tanks and bruisers don't last as long in team fights anymore as last patch, but this is the Marksman update. They wanted to change the tank meta,tank in jungle ,tank/bruiser top, tank support etc. Assassins are in the game now, you can take them jg,mid, top, are viable now unlike before. If you went yi jg, you were sacrificing a tank for that... prolly not worth. I personally never played squishy junglers in ranked in plat 1/2+ it was just too risky, playing tank was super safe.now I can yolo it. You gotta understand, as a tank /bruiser player you're a little different than last patch where your tankiness just made you an ace of all trades. Play renekton? Cool. Kill the ADC, soak the dmg from APC, and peel for your carry and be a meatshield full of radiation hazardous to all enemies health. It's changed now slightly, assassins have a role to play in teamfights, gotta do what bruiser/tanks do best, not jack of all trades. Even tanks last patch were slaughtering these weak ADC's. several times Amumu and Sejuani been banned cuz of their late game shred AOE % dmg

Calabok1 votes

they never said that. it's only in your imagination.

Azirious Mistake1 votes

Because they made the game cancer for 10 patches with their CC and ridiculous damage.

Goju

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Because they made the game cancer for 10 patches with their CC and ridiculous damage.

Again , not aginst them dropping some of the damage, the fact is they shouldn't do monumental amounts of damage, like Garen. they should however be able to survive and mitigate, as well as cause a rukus .. now a days everyone has to get the kill so they build damage, few wanna play teamwork, unless your giving them kills

Goju1 votes

oh I'm not against they upping some damage. You are right, tanks for a while were getting WAY out of had.. but the idea of "dial it back a notch" to the tune over average 9-13% max health damage?

Your right, a tank should not be able to dive in and penta.. but they should be able to get in and mitigate for there team, and with this much damage they are dead before they can do that.. the few that i see still holding there own are ones with a sustain of there own. Beyond that, most are getting just stomped, even the cow...

Example of my last game - Alistar with just shy of 200 armor, my ulti , vs a Vayne with Bork and Lords, she ATE me , and i had my full team there as well, i think i might have gotten off a Q... after that i was dead..

Now I am not saying that there are LOT of other situations, when it comes to balance, making assassins who can really dive in and do what they do, but making one class more "usable" while removing another classes main befit.. isn't really balance, its more of a juggle. I mean i suppose i can start building all my tanks as damage, but the idea behind a tank i thought was the fact they didn't do a lot of damage, it was meant to be the trade for the mitigation they do for there team , I forgo urber good kills for my assist and saves. Now you cant save jack

I think it should have been one item or the other, not both.. if it was like the hydra where you had the choice, life steal and slow vs armor pen , i could see it being a much much more suitable item.

But you are correct.. its the "marksmen" upgrade, so ill just try and survive till they get around to another "juggernaut" upgrade.. cuz im sorry Deadman's and Sterak's are no where near good enough. But like you said, they do what they do,

Good on ya

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