It should not take 5-6 rounds to start a ARAM

Goju·May 30, 2018·5 votes·3,143 views

I was under the impression that if you dodged a game, you were put on a timer before you could play another.. has this been removed? is there some way people are circumventing it? Because my standard for ARAMs are 2-6 (yes, one time was six) dodges before I actually get to play a game - this is insane -

I mean i get that sometimes one team gets there ziggs bomb handed to em.. but come on .. Dodges need either a more severe penalty or find out what exploit is being used and put a end to it..

Thanks

24 Comments

AeroWaffleMay 30, 20183 votes

It's not been removed as far as I know.

GojuMay 31, 20182 votes

Then there is a way they are getting around it - or - its no where near severe enough - I personally think if you que dodge a ARAM game, you should banned from the mode for 12 hours - if its because of "life" odds are you wont back back right away anyway - so no harm no foul.

ScuttleMay 31, 20183 votes

No, there's no way to get around it. It's 30minutes after the first one. Just accept that people don't always play aram for the randomness-maybe they specifically want to have fun and Udyr isn't their idea of fun so they'd rather just wait the timer.

GojuMay 31, 20181 votes

True, but because 1 person does not like there selection of 3 champs - 4 people who want to play the game should suffer? - that does not seem exactly "right" either. Joe should not suffer cuz Bob is a douche

BobaFlautistMay 31, 20181 votes

But like rerolls are pretty damn generous, as long as there's a limited number of champions you consider unfun.

AeroWaffleMay 31, 20183 votes

"Life" doesn't hit for 12-hours at a time every time. The danger of making the dodge penalty too large is that you start getting people who stay in the game but play with the intent of getting the game to end fast. Not necessarily intentionally feeding but likely to play far more reckless.

Baka RedMay 31, 20181 votes

Increasing the dodge timer for ARAM isn't the answer. If the person has only one account, the 15 minutes for the first dodge is bad enough. Second dodge is 30 minutes, and most people aren't going to wait for that long. Also, since some people have smurf accounts (I have no idea how large percentage of ARAM players have that), increasing dodge timer would not harm them practically at all. It would affect the non-ARAM-only-account-owners more badly than those who abuse the system by having ARAM only accounts and thus make ARAM only accounts even more 'beneficial' for their owners - not a good thing at all!

GojuMay 31, 20182 votes

Your right - I agree fully, please forgive me , i was not thinking about the benefit that would be to people with multiple accounts and how it would dramatically fail people who simply have a life issue and dodge - I apologize

I AM VBADMay 31, 20183 votes

people just have multiple accounts. they dodge switch accounts and try again.

and it is about to get much worse haha. they are chaging it so that the random champ pool is 3x as large for aram which means about 3x as many dodges i suspect

Kei143May 31, 20183 votes

Queue dodges in ARAM are the most severely punished ... at 10mins... I think? It's certainly not 6 mins.

Just your luck there buddy.

ScuttleMay 31, 20185 votes

normal SR: 6/15 aram: 15/30 ranked: 6/30

(first dodge per 16hr/any dodge after that)

GojuMay 31, 20181 votes

Clarification : Forgive me, I mean 2-6 dodges - before i get to start a game, not 2-6 mins, before they get back -

I get that its the longest, i really do, and sometimes life does kick you in the backside, and you have to dodge, a que or leave a game - its just the way life works -

However, over the last month or so I have seen increasing numbers of dodges before a game actually starts - I do not run a ARAM or Smurf account, maybe i should - then this would get to me as much as it does -

Kei143May 31, 20181 votes

You just unlucky bro.

A Pretty UnicornMay 31, 20183 votes

I mean, if dodging didn't get rid of the undesired random champion, that'd help stop people from doing it as much.

I AM VBADJun 1, 20181 votes

they could try that but it seems like it could be risky. if you cant get rid of a champ you dont want to play by dodging then whats the next fastest way? feeding your ass off until your team ffs.

CheezasaurusRexMay 31, 20182 votes

I know we have our RR for ARAM but I have always thought it would be nice to have a banned champs linked to your profile for ARAM. Like..at least give us 3 and maybe make it so you can purchase up to so many more, so that you can ban some champs from popping up in your random. Like you see that this one champ is free this week and you just HATE playing them. It would be nice to just swap them into your banned champs so that you wouldn't get them. It would be a low enough number that people couldn't cheese it and always get the same champ, but helpful enough that it might alleviate some of that dodging.

Just a thought. As a person who doesn't dodge games, I still understand how I might really want to play a quick ARAM match, and then get stuck with a champ I really really hate playing. I might only have time for one match tonight and I don't want to waste it playing a champion I don't enjoy. If all my RR are gone it might be tempting to just close it and cut my losses. Personally, I try to trade and just save all my RR for champs I really really dislike but I know a lot of people use them really quickly. So without giving out more RR or making a single lane map where we can choose our champs, I think the banned list might be a neat addition. ^_^

Just a thought and hopefully some insight as to WHY people might be dodging. (but it is really annoying, especially when I have a champ I love to play and someone dodges and then I get one I dislike lol).

GojuMay 31, 20183 votes

I have dodged once in a while, I admit this freely , normally due to life coming up , or the dog knocking over the water cooler, or something of that sort, I do not like doing it. But at times its a must.. and i get that some champs do kinda get the bumb end of the stick in ARAM.

A few banned champs linked to a profile - say 2 to start wit the ability to buy more up to 5 would be suitable -(I think that is the free champ rotation) if say Udyr is free and you dislike him for ARAM , you slot him as a banned champ and he will not be rolled for you - ofc this would be even more abused on ARAM accounts since they can simply block the free champs and then have access to there select number - but we basically have that anyway

I am just tired of going in , getting a champ setting my monasteries and summoner spells, only to have someone dodge at 3 seconds, and then getting a champ resetting monasteries and opp another doge.. ok now ive lost 3 champs i like. .and now i have Atroxx, who i re-rolled and i get Udyr.. great.. then get harassed in game because i die a fair few times, and why didnt I dodge? -

TheZacStreetBoysMay 31, 20181 votes

I do kind of like the self-ban idea. I have never played a game of Annie outside of ARAM, yet I'm m2 with her. I'd rather get a free rotation champ than someone I don't want to play.

poppy da bestMay 31, 20182 votes

I think the only way to solve it is that the champion is locked until it's played so there is no reason to dodge as will result in the same champion. during the match and they are less likely to afk in game with the leaver buster which is more harsh than a dodge as it effects 5 games on a timer

GojuMay 31, 20181 votes

This would be a great idea - champion for ARAM gets locked in till you trade it and/or reroll it -and yes while people may dislike the champion, they would play it because leaver buster does seem to dole out harsher penalties.

CuddIe BugMay 31, 20182 votes

this is the most dramatic post i've ever seen on these forums...

are you serious?

GojuMay 31, 20181 votes

I am serious - dodging has always been a issue - but your post as been most helpful as you offered some great solutions to the problem, or ideas on how to fix the issue.. I thank you for taking the time to respond. As such i have taken the time to respond to you as well. Happy ARAMing

CuddIe BugJun 1, 20181 votes

there's a penalty at first dodge. the same people are not the ones dodging in consecutive order.

no one would bother hacking to circumvent this... especially for dodge timers... especially for ARAM...

A Pretty UnicornMay 31, 20181 votes

The timer is 30 min or something