"Mage supports are OP!"

HP Crookshanks··4 votes·2,182 views

Mage - Win - Pick - Ban (Global Plat+) Zyra 53.0 8.7 11.2 Fiddlesticks 51.2 3.8 2.9 Velkoz 51.2 3.9 1.1 Lux 51.0 4.9 1.5 Brand 50.4 6.9 18.9 Morgana 50.1 11.0 22.0 Xerath 49.8 2.5 1.4 Karma 48.4 5.5 0.4 Annie 48.1 0.3 0.6 Veigar 47.0 1.4 3.0 Neeko 44.5 1.1 7.5

Meanwhile Thresh 51.2 27.2 13.0

Insane pick rate & Really high win rate for a popular and hard champion & High ban rate He and Zyra are the only ones that need nerfs in my opinion. (Maybe Brand too. Morgana has high ban rate because of Thresh players not because she is strong.)

16 Comments

boricCentaur15 votes

Im going to agree the majority of mage supports are fine it is really only zyra and brand also I want thresh nerfs like he has been the most played support for too long.

MasterLico1 votes

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Im going to agree the majority of mage supports are fine it is really only zyra and brand also I want thresh nerfs like he has been the most played support for too long.

true dat

Moody P5 votes

Delete rylais

Daddy Ants5 votes

Annie Neeko Veigar Xerath are NOT SUPPORTS.

They're only picked bot lane because of this bullshit damage meta.

Brand Zyra need more nerfs.

Thresh Pyke could take a nerf also.

MiracleMorg944 votes

Brand and Zyra aren't supports either.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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Brand and Zyra aren't supports either.

Brand no, but Zyra? Sure.

MiracleMorg944 votes

Zyra is not a support. She was a mid lane mage pushed bot by Riot, just like Karma and Morgana.

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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Zyra is not a support. She was a mid lane mage pushed bot by Riot, just like Karma and Morgana.

Im aware. But unlike something like brand, it is actually justified like it is with morg and Karma, and even Lux given how her kit works.

Saezio3 votes

Pyke anyone?

MiracleMorg943 votes

Zyra doesn't need nerfs. Winrates don't always correlate on how a champ is strong or weak. And she's already been nerfed recently, even though it wasn't needed.

Lux, Xerath, Annie, Veig, Neeko, Karma, Velkoz, and Fiddle are not supports either.

DorkunedAuras1 votes

Zyra really struggled to run out of mana because of how insane her mana regen is.

Rysophage2 votes

they arent supports they just go down there abuse how useless adcs are for free kills.

GreenKnight1 votes

I don't know why anyone would say that mages on bot are OP. They are fucking annoying though.

Gabresol1 votes

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I don't know why anyone would say that mages on bot are OP. They are fucking annoying though.

Whenever I play Brand, I just feel very safe. I can easily zone the enemies away from their farm or stack my spellthieves if they prefer to take the damage, and because the lane is so small in the area between the turret and the river entrance, his ult so damn powerful. And it's not like I am gonna run out of mana or anything... And once lategame hits, I have to rely on no one to do stuff like a support does and I also just outdamage whatever heals and shields they have to offer, while also having a lot of control in teamfights.

GreenKnight1 votes

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Whenever I play Brand, I just feel very safe. I can easily zone the enemies away from their farm or stack my spellthieves if they prefer to take the damage, and because the lane is so small in the area between the turret and the river entrance, his ult so damn powerful. And it's not like I am gonna run out of mana or anything... And once lategame hits, I have to rely on no one to do stuff like a support does and I also just outdamage whatever heals and shields they have to offer, while also having a lot of control in teamfights.

That's why i said that they are annoying. They are really strong when laning with someone, but they are still beatable. Highly aggressive tactics usually work wonders against Brand or Zyra.

UwM81 votes

I think some small nerfs to zyra are need but brand yea hes strong but a 50.4 WR ain't a reason to nerf. Since his damage relies on him hitting at least 3 abilities 2 of which are skill shots.

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