Kled is broken.

Oleandervine·Aug 15, 2016·39 votes·13,141 views

Something about Kled makes him unkillable and this is a problem. I'm not sure where in Riot's testing they thought he was ok. A champion who can pretty much heal 50% of its HP from 6 attacks is absurd, especially when they nerfed champs like Vlad and Swain who were sustain tank problems. If Kled builds even remotely tanky, you can't kill him before he can regain Skaarl and murder you. So I want to know why Riot can't seem to get this whole new champ thing right? Why is it so difficult to test and test these champs before going live so that we don't have to suffer them in games? It's extremely frustrating to play against him.

63 Comments

Handin Out NapsAug 15, 201623 votes

I think his invulnerability frames are very dumb and should probably be removed. Honestly feel like he would be much less annoying without it.

King Lmn PancakeAug 15, 20164 votes

I think this is his main problem and he could probably use a a few base damage nerfs with an increase AD to ratios so you need to build a bit more damage so he cant 1 shot you while being extremely tanky/

maikokkAug 15, 20163 votes

no, he has an assassin's kit, an assassin's ratios (already too high) and a bruisers lockdown and tankiness. he needs flat nerfs, you literally cant budge his numbers any way other than down. the only reason he isnt classified as an assassin is that you have to use 3 seconds to get full rotation and all his gap closers have travel times. also assasins cant be that tanky. but HIS SCALING IS INSANE with any stat outside of AP

a sheepSep 22, 20181 votes

the real problem is people dont realise that kled is one of the champions that belong with darius and renekton. you dont fight him early. a kled that doesnt snowball is the same as a usless kled that brings nothing except an r in team fight where after comes running in with his team he dies. if you ever seen a kled do bad you'll know what i mean.

RexSaurAug 15, 201610 votes

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I think his invulnerability frames are very dumb and should probably be removed. Honestly feel like he would be much less annoying without it.

Yep, its ridiculous on how kled gets to go invlunerable more times than fizz in a team fight, its so easy for him to disengage when he loses to mount, go back in and auto someone 2~~3 times + Q (which happens in roughly 1 second with his W), get mount back and gain over 500 hp~~1500~hp and then repeat the process, there is no reason for him to be able to go invulnerable as a bruiser, it removes the whole "kill him quickly before he gets the mount back" supposed weakness.

Jet SettAug 15, 20165 votes

"more times than Fizz in a fight" Twice. At most, TWICE due to "Frayed nerves" preventing constant remounting. Also, there's a delay before remounting on top of filling the bar in the first place, Kled himself will have 1530 HP after a dismount, combined with the fact that he can't regen his own health on Skaarl you'll find it's not as hard as people make it out to be. If your team focuses him while he's dismounted he'll have no chance due to the delay unless your team can't burst.

NobleSteveAug 15, 20162 votes

So have him die soon as he loses skaarl? Seems fair and balanced.

MaterisnaAug 26, 20162 votes

Still better then AA 5 times and getting 2k hp back Also his W makes it even more broken Just remove the "fizz E" dismount and add more points to the secondary bar...

xkillertenzoOct 3, 20161 votes

the fk he is broken why does he get such low cooldowns but high damage for a no mana champion and he gains invincibility from getting skarrl back

a sheepSep 22, 20181 votes

"such low cooldowns" i am aware this is posted years ago but here: q on mount: 9 sec - 7 sec base on level q dismount: start with 2 loaded. 3-second cd before shotting again if you have another one loaded. 20 to 7 base on champion level seconds of reload time(and this is his main ability to remount if he has no w up) w: 14 seconds - 8 seconds e: 14 seconds - 10 seconds r: 160/140/120 seconds keep in mind he doesnt get invince from skaarl coming back. its when you dismount so kled doesnt get one shot and have no chance of remounting. also saying a champion with such low cd(when you dont even do reserch) and saying he have high dmg with no mana? take a look at garen because he fit yor discription quite well and his w is just as good as an invis when he is tanky af and still hit like a truck with trifroce q and e dmg

Malignant VemiraAug 15, 201612 votes

Because abusing new champs is the only way riot employees can win games, OHHHH.

ZT XperimentorAug 15, 201611 votes

"A champion who can pretty much heal 50% of its HP from 6 attacks is absurd" Oh so basically every marksmen too.

King Lmn PancakeAug 15, 201610 votes

But do marksmen have 3000+ hp with armour and magic resist?

RG VeleanAug 15, 201610 votes

Now days, yes.

ZT XperimentorAug 15, 20164 votes

Lets see; Damage reduction item 3812 item 3046 Lifesteal item 3153 item 3156 item 3139 item 3072 & item 3031 w/ masteries Magic resist item 3091 Health item 3022 item 3053 item 3071 Notice a tread? Some items were bruiser items that they've been abusing all season long; others riot changed in preseason because marksmen weren't the center of attention for a month.

CerealBoxOfDoomAug 15, 20167 votes

kled can't do much without skaarl though.. seems fair to me, you just need to stop being a wuss and get something done when skaarl is gone

SwiftKitten88Aug 15, 201613 votes

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kled can't do much without skaarl though.. seems fair to me, you just need to stop being a wuss and get something done when skaarl is gone

he cant get AWAY without skaarl

he still can murder you... and hell, he chases you better WITHOUT skaarl than he does WITH him. (if you exclude his bear trap and his ulti) freaking 385-470 movement speed running at you with NO BOOTS... good luck getting away form that as ANYONE

CerealBoxOfDoomAug 15, 20164 votes

... so does he do anything special while unmounted?

NobleSteveAug 15, 20166 votes

He gains movement speed moving towards enemy champions. Also his bear trap on a rope is replaced by a pocket pistol that has 2 shells and pushes him back.

AstôlfoAug 15, 20166 votes

Not even close. Learn to play against him and stop whining.

SkiasAug 15, 20168 votes

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Not even close. Learn to play against him and stop whining.

Go back to your basement.

AstôlfoAug 15, 20163 votes

lmao how incredily mature

LauchmelderAug 15, 20165 votes

Your OP wasn't really mature either.

And yes, Kled needs a nerf. In most games he is simply unkillable.

AstôlfoAug 15, 20162 votes

No, not really.

LauchmelderAug 15, 20164 votes

Are you sure you even know the basics of the game?

Fairly sure you are trolling though.

SkiasAug 15, 201613 votes

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lmao how incredily mature

Yup, I'm "incredily" mature. Every post I see you make on any thread is "stop whining insert asshole comment here".

CeexSettAug 15, 20163 votes

Can I upvote more than once?

AstôlfoAug 15, 20162 votes

Well, coincidentally enough, most threads I say that in are crying QQ threads like yours. What an amazing coincidence.

ArakadiaAug 15, 20164 votes

Then why the hell do you keep posting?

AstôlfoAug 16, 20162 votes

Why not?

ArakadiaAug 16, 20164 votes

Its a waste of your time.

a sheepSep 22, 20181 votes

but he is right in some sense(not the way he said it tho) becaue you know kled will do things like that so play around it. make him dismount and leave(in lane) and then when you can burst him go for it. take ignite mostly because that increase the early game dmg to kill kled when he dismounts. if he is at 40+ courage then dont risk it

MunchCrunchLunchAug 15, 20163 votes

he has nearly 47% winrate in the top lane. DO YOU KNOW. how high. that is for a release champion. let me put you in prespective. pretty much every release.and rerelease i've witnessed. has had. about 40% winrate. and even lower sometimes. nobody was every above 45%. in a patch or two kled winrate will skyrocket.

the other day. i came out of lane with 2.5x my enemy kled cs. and 3 kills ahead. he had 2 ad items and he was tankier than me and i was already building tank items.

DunkinNoobsAug 15, 20162 votes

It's 43.5%. Kled is trash.

MunchCrunchLunchAug 15, 20162 votes

i used a different website.

still thats higher than illaoi and taliyah winrates.

DunkinNoobsAug 16, 20161 votes

What trash website are you using where Illaoi and Taliyah have winrates below 43.5%?

MunchCrunchLunchAug 16, 20161 votes

not now on release

a sheepSep 22, 20181 votes

rito even said kled is one of the most balance champion on release and they needed a little bit of nerf. after the nerf hit it was all good.

also irelia getting tri and steraks at this point can delete most ppl(new irelia that is)

Unstoppable MonkOct 3, 20163 votes

If he builds AD he dies pretty fast so there's nothing on the non tank part of Kled.

So as for Tanky Kled, his early game is kind of shitty. Strong sustained damage is how you make Kled completely ineffective. Top is somewhat strong because of the experience, but he's also one of those champions that's going to die if they're extended early. Does he make up for it if he trades kills? Kind of. He does really bad if you do have the damage to kill him before he can remount and is only really strong when he has ultimate.

ItankyouAug 15, 20162 votes

nope

OleandervineAug 15, 20168 votes

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nope

Care to elaborate?

SkiasAug 15, 20166 votes

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Care to elaborate?

He's an idiot.

Penguin EclipseAug 16, 20162 votes

Many adc's can restore 50% of their health in 6 auto attacks. Granted 50% of a typical adc's health bar isn't very much.

NGNL AsianAug 16, 20162 votes

He's legitly fizz+morgana+thresh/blitz/naut+vayne+renekton+aurelion E

SlenderVortexAug 27, 20162 votes

I think that Kled's passive really needs to be nerved or changed. Like you said, just a few autos and Kled's almost on full health this will the early game for opponents really hard. So i think that riot should make Kled's passive 'slower' (I can't quite think of the right word), like Kled needs to deal certain amount of damage to get Skarl back not by just hitting opponents few times

so bádAug 29, 20162 votes

Just signed-in to approve your comment. No mana, no energy, low cooldowns. And that motherfucking stupid-ass extremely annoying passive. Even players with no skill are able to look even Darius nerfy af. Better nerf Irelia? Nah, Better nerf Kled! since from now on!

a sheepSep 22, 20181 votes

5 aa and a q that hit all pellet to remount which in most cases wont. so 6 aa and q and that little delay before remount you should have enough time to kill him. he is strong early but bad when he doesnt snowball and is usless late game unless enemy team is unfed which is unlikeing when you made it to late game

clickheadSep 10, 20162 votes

In lane he has more sustain than Aatrox, he has more burst than Rengar and he is tankier than Sion. He also has a gap closer and a form of CC that pretty much guarantees a kill if his jungler comes to visit. Mid-late game he has the best ultimate in the game, hands down (you can't even argue against this), with his 10x mega sivir ult + Vi ult across the map. Of course he is broken. He is the most broken champion that has ever been released, and everyone knows this. That is why you must ban him every game.