[{quoted}](name=SGT Dingle Berry,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MFGlRenL,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-11-17T10:26:44.499+0000)
The total time he spends counter jungling and a level 2 gank is probably around 1.5 minutes before heading back and holding the ADCs hand. If the ADC dies before that then that's on the ADC.
if you think he is going to gank at 1.5 min.
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/ZIdZercE-singed-guy-is-getting-rightfully-penalized
here is the unbiased version of his stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UohpkGxfi-E
He has not counterjungled at all. He just took his junglers farm.
And at 17:00 the bot tower fell. If singed was indeed counterjungling he would have distracted the enemy right? But he doesnt.
At 27:00, singed has only ONE DAMN participation, with his adc at a 100 cs deficit.
They won because heca and akali hard-ball carried and they reported the singed.
AND the cherry on top of the cake, look at him s%%%%%% at his adc while he is at full health "regening his mana" at the side of the bush.
His support pick is by the way near 30% winrate. He only wins playing top singed so dont get wrong there as well.
This pick brings NOTHING.