Ugh, Riot... why did you bring riven back....

LatetotheRace··5 votes·552 views

I've effectively seen riven non-stop since you re-released championship... SO, I think it's about time we tackle some of her blatant issues.

  1. Cooldowns, she's obviously Resource-less, so her Cooldowns should be decently high right? Well they're decently long enough at: Q 13 all levels W 11 / 10 / 9 / 8 / 7 1-5 E 10 / 9 / 8 / 7 / 6 1-5 R 130 / 95 / 60 But when you consider that all but the worst of the worst Riven players get 45% by mid game, and 25%-35% after boots and first item, they're beyond too short. So let's take a look at her Cooldowns AFTER the insanely easy to get 45% Cooldown. Q 7.15 which is effectively 2-4 seconds when you consider how this ability works. W 6.05 \ 5.5 \ 4.95 \ 4.4 \ 3.85 E 5.5 \ 4.95 \ 4.4 \ 3.85 \ 3.3 R 71.5 \ 52.25 \ 33 Um, this is pretty ludicrous... Like are you serious? The snowballing is immeasurable here item 3071 item 3158. 4k gold = 35% CDR, 300, health 50 damage, +45 MS, the rage passive, and 30% armor shred that ramps up during the fights. This is some serious gold efficiency here. Then follow up with the patented item 3142. Yes it may be 3200 gold, but you're very likely to be getting ahead due to your easily abuseable, and now you're up to 45% CDR. So what is a poor riven to do with the last three item spots? Well she can get pretty much whatever the hell she wants. Need MR, well we got some options for youuuu!!! item 3156 item 3139, need heavy sustain? item 3074 item 3072 item 3812 , hell you want crit you say? Eh, why not! item 3031 item 3046. Need more durability? item 3053 item 3022. Huh, you're up against some tanks? item 3033 item 3036. See what I'm getting at? She can do whatever she wants with three items, and that makes her one of the most malleable and versatile champion in top lane right now. There's just sooo much wrong with riven right now, and we need to fix her soon.

My suggested options. (Seriously riot, don't do some stupid "nerf the base shield by 10 at level 5 or something, these are important.)

  1. Change her ult to raise her base AD and NOT her bonus AD. This way it would directly effect her autos but not her abilities. This wouldn't be that big of a deal since she has auto cancels and ghost blade to bolster her attack speed.
  2. Reduce the scaling of her shield, and increase the cooldown at levels 2-5, to keep the final cooldown to 2+ seconds what they currently are. This will effectively increase the cooldown by 1.1% due to 45% cdr.
  3. Reduce her movement speed. With as mobile she is due to her abilities, she should be more immobile while slowed and/or silenced/grounded.
  4. Change broken wings cooldown to regulate itself so there's always a guaranteed minimum cooldown regardless of whether you drag the flips out. (5) Optional Rework item 3071... seriously riot, it's just too strong of an item. 20% CDR on any item is quite a stretch, and this has been nothing short of abused since it's release. -see marksmen- I'm perfectly fine with fighters doing their job and being able to take down tanks or focus down squishies, but right now Riven is almost as overbearing as Irelia. My personal vision for Riven is to still thrive on being aggressive while having larger and more defined openings of weakness.

10 Comments

agbudar1 votes

or yknow ... Garen not even funny how hard garen teabags her

DeadlinWalking1 votes

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or yknow ... Garen not even funny how hard garen teabags her

Yet.we.cry.when.plat/low-diamond.players.lose.GarenVRiven.

Brain Errör 4041 votes

Riven's fine. Leave her as is. Either you buff her and she's way too strong, or you nerf her more and she's a sheep in wolf's clothing.

LatetotheRace1 votes

I think a simple movement speed decrease would be more than sufficient to see how close we can get her to the middle.

Brain Errör 4041 votes

I think her dashes should be affect by slows, that's about it tbh.

LatetotheRace1 votes

I've had this thought in the past, but people seem to reject it quite readily. It's almost as if when a champion is slowed they should actually be slowed.

Sexy Jack Rabbit1 votes

The only thing that was buffed was her ultimate. It's not like Riven's Q - W - E were buffed. She never really disappeared, it's just that the Buff has made her more meta then before.

LatetotheRace1 votes

I beg to differ sir, she has received several very strong buffs as of late, and the ult buff was simply to put her over that edge for her up coming skin. The combination of the 5% CDR, and fervor of battle has increased her ability quite significantly.

Sorin Alucard1 votes

I just posted about how unhealthy it feels to play against her and how many match-ups require jungler to camp or its free lane

LatetotheRace1 votes

Yes she has tough match-ups, but who doesn't? The biggest problem is how she gets large power surges, and can snowball out of control more so than most champions in general. I do think she needs a more secure early lane which is why none of my suggestions touched her early game. But her late game is quite hard to deal with as a whole.

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