To the players that have been around for awhile, what exactly was so bad about pre-nerf Kassadin?

AstroFerrari ··1 votes·822 views

And is he still viable?

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SaltyKracka5 votes

He'd survive the lane phase with relative ease, then proceed to jump in, silence, get off his burst and fuck off, thereby winning all trades forever.

Repeated ad nauseam, combined with being impossible to chase down.

He's not viable now, but I honestly think the game's better off without him.

Hayaishi24 votes

No risk 100-0 tanky assassin, with free flashes.

Meat Soldier2 votes

He had a point and click silence and a flash with a 5-6 second cd max rank and aoe damage that applied on hits built into his incredibly oppressive and overly mobile kit. He had an auto steroid that would shut you down the moment he got within flashing distance because of how quickly he could completely cripple you. Yeah, he's still viable. He's still bullshit.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

His Ult had longer range and his Q silenced instead of interrupting channels. He was so hard to escape and catch that using Iceborn Gauntlet on him was actually a thing.

Malix Farwin2 votes

Think of a tanky leblanc with even more mobility, better aoe damage and, no skillshot.

Lovelle2 votes

You could build him as a mana tank and kill, split-push, do whatever you wanted and no one could stop you. His only weak phase was pre 6, but even if you died a few times you would still roll face.

Used to be one of the most OP champions on Dominion, along with Jayce before his nerfs.

Marthian1 votes

And even pre-6, it was rather easy to just shut down their engage: Just throw a silence in their face and watch their engage fail (or just hit them hard in return while they do nothing about it.)

ReshiKillim2 votes

Old Kassadin was tanky, more mobile than any of the current "Hyper Mobile" champions (More mobile than anything but full MS Rammus), hit like a Talon, had anti-magic damage passive, spammable CC, Cone nuke that had basically no cooldown in a teamfight.

Fiveofswords2 votes

i just started again after a long break so im actually not familiar with how he was nerfed. But yes at one point he was obviously and by far the most op champ in the game. Imagine what you could do in a game if your flash had a 5 second cooldown and you could kill any adc or apc in about 1 second. Basically if kassadin didnt finish a game with a score like 30/2/3 then the player was terrible.

It was popular to build him tanky...since he was sortof melee range and i guesss the idea was 'just in case you get ccd after rifting into enemy team'. But it wasnt actually necessary. The rare times pros were allowed to play kassadin they just went glass cannon. Cause you jsut flash kill flash out. Nobody could stop you. And it was sad being an adc with kassadin on enemy team. he could literrally appear from nowhere and kill you at any second. Your average survival time outside base was like 10 seconds.

Stars Shaper2 votes

Targeted silence with hyper mobility and really huge damage plus free defense by passive. He was way too safe even against assassins.

Only Play Darius1 votes

OG Kassadin was literally 100% permaban Season 2. He was a hyper-mobile assassin in a time where wallhops were rare and a champion was considered mobile if they had a single speedboost in their kit. So they reworked him (AKA remove his silence and gut all his ratios) and he was considered trash tier until some chinese teams started playing him in season 5. He was strong but never felt overbearing, especially since nowadays literally every champion has a wallhop, but Riot didn't see it that way so balance team got to work and broke his legs with the nerf bat. He is overnerfed garbage tier right now and has been essentially removed from the game, it's going to take serious buffs or a massive meta shift for him to become remotely viable again.

PiVoRx1 votes

He was current Ahri but without silience.

powerbats1 votes

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He was current Ahri but without silience.

Actually he was more op than current Ahri and more like DFG LB but with more mobility, more tankyness and was almost as fast as full ms Rammus. He basically combined Garen's, LB's, and Rammus kit into one.

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