@Riot, simple question: why all reworked champions have MS boosts?

dEAdbUs·Oct 28, 2015·1 votes·406 views

Fiora, GP, etc - you gave them new items with MS boosts: Deadman's and Cleaver, why did you also add speed boosts to champions kits? There is no way to run away from Fiora, because she here MS is always increased. Same to GP - with speed boost he also has slow from barrels - sick!!! Plus Fiora has dash - wtf! Old Fiora was killable - because after her combo she has nothing, and player managed to survive - he was able to fight back. Now there is no way to fight back - you can't run away from her, and attack back when your skill will be on cd, because Fiora can chase anyone forever and you just have to outtrade her (how? she disables cc and can heal nonstop).

10 Comments

NemeBroOct 28, 20154 votes

Gangplank and Fiora always had movement speed boosts, both on their E. Riot just changed what procc'd it (might have changed the values too, I forget).

Garen and Mordekaiser also had movement speed boosts before the rework, and Garen's in particular I know was toned down.

Darius' movement speed boost was actually taken away from him.

So the only champion who actually received a movement speed boost upon being recently reworked was Skarner (I mean, I assume, I know almost nothing of his old kit lol), and MF (W now gives her Strut).

So, I guess the answer is they don't.

dEAdbUsOct 28, 20151 votes

Yeah, they all had, but this champs are reworked. Why did they keep MS boosts? MS boost was ok for old kit. Thats the question: why they still have MS boosts in their overloaded kits? Plus they get new items.

ZephyrDrakeOct 28, 20151 votes

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Yeah, they all had, but this champs are reworked. Why did they keep MS boosts? MS boost was ok for old kit. Thats the question: why they still have MS boosts in their overloaded kits? Plus they get new items.

they have MS boost because they are champions who need to stick to targets somehow. What if you don't want to build BC or deadman's on them? then what? we should just take out the slows of every single kit since you can just buy any item that provides a slow. We should get rid of shields as well since there are items who provide shields. You see how stupid your logic is?

dEAdbUsOct 28, 20151 votes

GP has slow, Fiora has slow/stun/dash, Skarner has slow/stun/suppression. Enough to stick to target. Even without BC and DMP.

ZephyrDrakeOct 28, 20151 votes

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GP has slow, Fiora has slow/stun/dash, Skarner has slow/stun/suppression. Enough to stick to target. Even without BC and DMP.

they have a MS boost whether you like it or not. You want them to get rid of the MS boost just so they can make them stronger? i'm down with that

dEAdbUsOct 28, 20151 votes

I can ask Riot about anything, do you like it or not. They're already strong, GP and Fiora can be playable without their MS boosts.

ZephyrDrakeOct 28, 20151 votes

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I can ask Riot about anything, do you like it or not. They're already strong, GP and Fiora can be playable without their MS boosts.

they are balanced around having said MS boost. They cannot just get rid of of something and call it a day since they are balanced around it. Being strong means nothing when you are stripping power from them for no reason and your only excuse is "they build items that give speed boosts" since the same argument can be said about every ms boost/slow/shield in the game

dEAdbUsOct 28, 20151 votes

Your words could be truth if we'd see Fioras and GPs without Trinity and Deadmans and Black Clever - we'd see then with Gauntlets or Frozen Mallet, but nope we don't see em - not in low elo, not in high, not even on Worlds. So nope, right now this champions have just straight builds, almost nothing to choose from.

ErockandrollOct 28, 20151 votes

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they have MS boost because they are champions who need to stick to targets somehow. What if you don't want to build BC or deadman's on them? then what? we should just take out the slows of every single kit since you can just buy any item that provides a slow. We should get rid of shields as well since there are items who provide shields. You see how stupid your logic is?

Riot is probably some what trying to tunnel Juggernauts into those two items. That way, Riot has a lever to balance Juggernauts as a whole.

MS boosts are probably done to keep up with the more Dash heavy counterparts.

Pika310Oct 28, 20151 votes

Ya, Skarner already had MS on his shield before, so that's not new either. As for MF, like you said it just triggers her passive, but not in so many words.