i wish to know if the proposed ideas for changing graves to feel more like a up close in your face aggressive adc shotguner that were talked on are still being looked at
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2014/01/red-post-collection-upcoming-miss.html
link is here for any one interested but TLDR
graves would get bonus armor pen depending on how close he was or perhaps adding it to his quick draw buff and ult
RiotMeddler5 votesNot sure where Scarizard ending up getting with the work mentioned there, he moved from Game Design to Player Communication/Community last year, so it's possible that was stuff on a list he didn't get to before that happened.
More damage for close range shots is an approach we'd like to experiment with on Graves at some point though. A shotgun's such a distinctive weapon in games that it feels like we're wasting some cool gameplay space by not playing up the differences between Graves's auto attacks and other marksmens's more. Would also help separate Graves from other somewhat similar champions, he and Lucian in particular are too similar at present, which makes it difficult to have both be appealing, rather than one outshining the other.
TotalJerk3 votesWell he lost his gun in the lore. Perfect excuse to update him a bit.
Impetual1 votesTo be fair, Lucian is too similar to Graves because you guys designed him that way.
Selegun1 votesWould you be willing to test other Auto Attack changed based on proximity? Attack Speed based on how close a champion is to its target could be something fun to toy around with. Personally I'd like to see something like this on 
if its ever decided that she needs changes again.
Azteryz1 votesthank you for replying to this meddler it would be great if you can relay this to scarizard and ask where he was last on this topic and if he can give feedback
continuing with what you were saying on to close range shots doing "something" would be a great change for graves and adcs in general because it would allow for obvious strengths and allow for counterplay as well and it doesnt even need to be more dmg it could just be more armor pen or something along those lines
and i also agree that him and lucian are similar but i feel like giving this change would separate both players in what they are trying to achieve in terms of theme and gameplay
because when i use my q and r it feels like im using a high caliber shot gun all i want is my auto attacks to feel like them too instead of me shooting lemons (that new dawn cinematic tho) xD <3
-graves main
Eggstealer1 votesI remember changing his Q to do more damage if they were hit by all 3 projectiles. Hitting them with all 3 implied you were closer. but yes, armor pen is always nice
Messaiga1 votesHis Q already does additional damage if more than one shot of it hits.
It'd be interesting to see what direction they take Graves to make his play style as distinct as his weapon.
Eggstealer2 votes"remember changing" *I remember when they changed. So they have already done one change to affect this play style. also the ult hits the closest enemy then fans out and does less dmg to more people