Support mains, can you give me some advices please?

WolfChases··1 votes·898 views

As a guy who plays Jungle, Mid and Marksmen I would Like to learn how to support.

As for my main lanes, I am able to play Tanky junglers, Assassins mid + Yasuo and Orianna and and literally every single Marksman except Kog'Maw and Tristana due to their weird AA animations so I can't really CS as good as I can with Varus, Cait, Vayne, Lucian or Sivir for example.

As for Supports, I have tried Thresh, Leona, Karma, Zyra, Nami (free week), Volibear and Sona and it seems that I dod well only with Leona.

  • When I play Thresh I have no problems with my Q but I am making wrong decisions which leads me to the death.

  • When I play Zyra I simply die too much because she's squishy as hell and just, I don't know.....

  • When I play Sona I am simply just spamming my abilities which makes no sense to me :D :D

  • When I am Karma Its either OK or I get annihilated.

  • Didn't play Soraka

  • When it comes to Nami She's kind of hard for me for some reason.

  • Leona Just YOLO because I make more damage than my ADC and I simply can't Die so I feel comfortable with her.

Is there anything you can suggest me? Any specific champion or how to play the other ones I listed above? I really want to play Support because it seems rewarding and cool to make plays and read that "GG" in chat when I do something cool :3

10 Comments

Xedrek1 votes

Janna I suggest trying janna for a bit. She is very forgiving when learning supports, and since she has a knock up, AOE movement buff, and an AD buff shield, you're relevant at all points of the game. Once you get comfy you notice your supporting getting more solid

WolfChases1 votes

Ty, I'll try her, I like her Ultimate. :)

Sakura Mirage1 votes

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Ty, I'll try her, I like her Ultimate. :)

If you want to become very good at the support role you have to have mastered something like Thresh this support can teach you all the basics like all of them.

Amelie1 votes

You sound like someone who likes to get in and fight. So maybe try out some more of the tank supports, since ranged poke doesn't seem to work as well for you. Alistar, Braum, or Nautilus may suit you better. Shen/Malphite can also support. Blitzcrank is good if you can land skillshots.

Linthe1 votes

Thresh: Not sure what you mean by wrong decisions. If you mean Qing a 2nd time, you can always NOT do that. Just let the hook them and let it go. Thresh is VERY strong once he has ult. Q+E+R should mean enemy flash at the very least and I am sad when it doesn't mean enemy death. Always harass enemy champs when your E passive is up. Work your lantern. Thresh could be a very solid support if you only use your E passive and W. (It's a beast for the other team when your ADC lanterns half a screen away out of a gank.)

Leona: Leona requires either communication with your ADC or at least one who is paying attention. Otherwise, you will E in while your ADC farms and you have to flash out. But once you have ult, R+ E + W +Q is stupid good. Like impossible to escape death good if you land the R stun and have some backup damage. I would just so go easy on the E all in early unless your ADC really seems to be on the ball or if the enemy bot lane is really passive.

Janna: She is my favorite. Her E is spectacular.

Braum is also pretty fun. Kinda of like Leona without the all in risk.

RookPusher1 votes

Here's my 2 cents:

Nami - Your bubble is best when it's off CD. That seems obvious but it's more important to have the threat than to cast it. For example, if you're slithering around on the back line then all of a sudden make a b-line for the ADC, they're all assuming you're going to bubble. So either do nothing and mess with their head, or hit them with a wave,

Zyra - you're taking too much damage. Either you're not a mage-guy, or you're on the front lines too much. Max W first, get 40% CD (usually item 3174) because you want to spam your vines and have your spitting flowers ready to go as often as possible. I generally go (in order) item 3301 ---> item 3096 , item 3158 , item 3174

Thresh - Hindered by bad ADCs. Give Braum a try for a bit. I find him a little easier. He scales with level, and his abilities are wildly complex.

Another tank support that I find to be a lot of fun is Sej.

Sairek Ceareste1 votes

I haven't played him yet, but TahmKench might also be a good choice in support as he seems to be more in your style. Swallowing your ADC who's in danger or carrying them for an engage is a god-send.

Also swallowing the enemy ADC if you manage to is pretty good as well. Being eaten at the wrong time by an enemy Tahm is usually a death sentence. At the very least you'll force a summoner or two.

Mecha MaIphite1 votes
  1. pick blitz
  2. stand in bush
  3. afk
  4. profit?
Zmuecat1 votes

Thresh: Decisions are hard and it mostly ends up to who has the advantage. If your ADC can follow up (pinging before diving helps), a good rule of thumb would be if you the target or at least get a flash during your CC train, then you should dive (unless it's a teamfight, different rules). I don't play Thresh too often, but when I do I generally just harass with AAs and Flay until they're low or I can get a lantern for my jungler and take them out. I start out yellow gold item, 3 biscuits and a man pot. If they are a harass lane, 4 biscuits. I try not to go back until I have enough money for SS and boots or SS and tier two gold item.

Zyra is squishy. Generally you are going for more hit and run tactics as well as using minions as shields. If you can get some early poke off, you'll enjoy a much better lane because, unless the enemy goes back early, most will be too scared to CS. To get anything out of plants, I found using Q/E then laying a W down (instead of W -> Q/E) works better and faster, giving you more damage. I start blue gold item, 2 biscuits and 2 mana pots unless they are a harass lane, then I get three biscuits. I try not to go back until I have money for SS and boots, or SS and an amplifying tome (or one of the two cheaper upgrades, I like Fiendish Codex or Aether Whisp depending on which item I'm getting first). Don't upgrade blue item, switch it to gold gen line or an AP item later.

Sona works like Zyra, and there's two ways to build her. There's the full AP mid mage way, and the support way. I lean support unless we're going to win. Start lane with 2 biscuits and a 2 mana pots unless it's a harass lane with blue item. If you are going to be assisting the jungle, you want to use your Q once before you leave the fountain and get one stack on your passive. If the jungler starts on the other side of the map, get two stacks of your passive and head to lane. You want your first ideal attack to be AA -> Q -> AA for as much damage, and you want it on whoever will be more annoying (for me, if there's a tank in the lane I try to get the first attack on the ADC so he thinks about following up. If there's a harassing support, they are most likely very squishy and you can hit them with the first attack and hope they don't try to harass as much). Whoever is more active in the lane gets the harass, because they are making the plays, but try to give your attention to both enemies about 60/40. If you are with a premade team and know you are about to snowball out of control, rush Sheen, otherwise, any AP support item works. Switch blue gen item to the yellow one later in the game.

Karma: Play her less than Thresh, won't give advice on something I know almost nothing about.

Soraka. Blue gen item. 2 biscuits 2 mana pots, can opt for 1 biscuit depending on the lane, blue sustain item or yellow, I go blue. Support AP items and some tankiness (not HP, more armor/MR). Leveling should be Q->W->Q->E->Q->R->Max W. Gives you poke in lane that does a fair amount of damage. If you give up an early kill, just max W and AA harass, but never play full passive unless the enemy lane is tons ahead. Switch blue gold item for yellow later.

Nami. Blue gen item, 2 biscuits, 2 mana pots. Harass with W all day every day. If you are below 50% HP, start W on yourself so you get a better heal. Above 75% start on the enemy and stick around for the heal bounce back. In between, go more for the enemy, but be aware that you may lose out. AP support items. Blue gen item switched for yellow gold item later, but you can use the Frost Queens item to land Qs easier.

I buy a lot of potions in lane if I ever have extra money. More sustain means I can harass longer. Get a pink as soon as possible and at least get your tribush, if you are often pushed to the enemies turret, pink the river and green your tribush. Once the enemy starts pushing you back, get a ward in the side bushes. Remind your ADC to ward whenever possible, especially before sightstone. Always get sightstone. Don't ever be set in stone in your build, when you have money for an item, look at the enemy team and your team, identify who is fed and try and counter those champions.

These items rock: item 3060 item 3222 item 3050 item 3512 item 3023 item 3069 item 3401 item 3009 item 3117 item 3190

These are the things I've picked up generally through play. I'm unranked, but play almost nothing but support. These tips are probably not ideal for high plat+, but for learning the role will help.

WolfChases1 votes

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