A Jhin Misinterpretation

Meep Man··4 votes·1,237 views

Believe it or not, Jhin's early game isn't complete and udder garbage. It isn't even remotely bad. It is just HARD. What do I mean by hard? I mean it's hard to play him early game. Why? He is very, VERY methodical and has to be VERY precise with his movements. When his W and E are easily avoided, his basic attacks are gated, and his Q can not be considered the best poke at times, he ends having to perform very, very precisely.

Saying he has a bad early game is wrong, because that is saying he will under perform in a duel where both sides are evenly matched and both sides perform at the same skill level to where both make the same or no mistakes. No, if that is true, then he does NOT have a bad early game. He just has a HARD early game because his skill floor for performing without his extreme crits that come late game is very, very high.

To put it simply, Jhin's power does not scale as dramatically as people say it does throughout the game (not to say he isn't much more powerful late game than early game since all Marksman are), instead his skill floor DECREASES as the game progresses. Come late game, he gradually gains more luxury to perform not quite as precise or methodical as he did early game. Every shot counts early game, but you have some room for error come late game basically.

You know who has a bad early game? Kog'Maw, Kog has a bad early game. Someone like Vayne or Lucian can almost always out perform a Kog early game. However, Jhin can perform on an equal level to Lucian or Vayne early game, it just takes much more thinking and skill to do.

TL;DR Jhin has a hard early game, not a bad early game. His late game IS much stronger than his early game, but that isn't to say his early game is bad.

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FloRaider424 votes

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BronzeAF1 votes

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FloRaider421 votes

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Malhammers1 votes

I think its too early to try to make any sense of his strengths yet. In any given game, you are playing against a Jhin with under 10 games played, or playing Jhin against lane opponents who have very little exposure to him.

Makes it nearly impossible to understand him yet.

Meep Man1 votes

However, it is undoubteable that his actions are much more limited than other ADCs. You have to sit there and think "If I last hit this minion with the 4th bullet, will I be punished?" instead of other ADCs who can sit there and play like "I will last hit and then attack them if they attack me." Jhin doesn't always have that option, he can't always retaliate. Nothing is guaranteed with him, not even his basic attacks.

I do agree with your point, but there are some things that are very visible just on the surface.

Rabid Husky1 votes

yeah this is something i noticed he has a hard time coming back if he gets starved he needs to get kills glad im not alone in this thinking

BattleBalladeer1 votes

I've noticed this about Jhin's laning phase that I find to be pretty great, but I got it from Redmercy's video I think: Any ADC can have 10% lifesteal easy at level 1 by going Doran's Blade +3 LS Quints and the +2% mastery.

Now from my experience: He does not need to use his 4th auto on enemies to poke, in fact simply shooting with one of the previous 3 is more unexpected so you'll probably land them easier, and if you use the 4th to crit a minion that is a huge chunk of healing from the crit an +10% lifesteal. However if you do land the 4th auto on an enemy champion that one Auto is 15% lifesteal at level 1 and a really huge chunk of healing. Laning sustain with Jhin is as good as anyone else at the very least.

The biggest weakness I have noticed is how easy it is to spam grenade for CS and traps for vision, which leads you to going OOM very fast. For this I have rushed Essence Reaver as my first jhin item on both my successful Jhin games (my one bad jhin game was JG on SR). Probably just a personal weakness though since I don't usually play adc.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

You also have to add the fact that his support has to be just as smart.

If his support is a complete idiot, then he's gonna have a very hard time as well. Players have to be smart enough to adapt to and work with varying supports.

Remlap12231 votes

I'm pretty sure that Jhin has old Tristana's power curve. In that he's very strong early game, will be strong mid game if he gets fed, but will be useless if he falls behind.

Honestly, the only thing he needs is the time before he reloads his gun to be reduced to Graves levels. I shouldn't have to wait ten seconds to go from 2 ammo to 4.

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