What can you do as a support with an ADC that never goes for trades?

PopcornBunni··1 votes·277 views

Been running into this a lot being in the bottom of Bronze. ADCs farming at full health and never going for what would be easy trades.

My last game, even ignoring the afk mid (because of course it would be in Bronze), I went Cass supp with Twitch. For the unaware, Cass's E amplified damage works with Twitch's passive poison, so a single auto + cass E chunks for a huge amount of health. Instead of firing even a single shot at the nearby enemy laners, he kept firing at the enemy minions frozen just outside of our turret's range. The minions were already aggroing him so he wasn't going to lose out by tossing in a couple of autos to keep the enemy at bay, but never did. We lost lane from their willingness to trade and get me low before killing me while the adc watched and farmed still at near full health.

But it isn't just these kind of gimmicky setups or being too far forward with a poke support. I've had numerous games as an engage support like Alistar or Leona wherein I'll ping going in in a moment of respite between waves for an easy exchange, but get nothing in return from my botlaner.

Or I'll play a shield/heal support with an adc that continually lets the lane push under tower and reset without being willing to take trades while shielded or with my heal available.

What's the best thing to do in these cases?

3 Comments

Wise Enough1 votes

Trust me, that is the moment where you just leave bot and go to other lanes.

Or afk/run around jungle (because they will not surrender) and spare 35+ minutes of your life.

deLuxLaser1 votes

Thank you very much for posting this. You described my life over the last 5 yrs. Please take it from me that if you have a gut feeling that ur carry will not carry and you main support, just play a heavy mage support. I climbed to gold only by playing lux support. I did it this season. Other options which are even better is veigar, or karma , or brand or zyra.

Sometimes we need to understand that great support picks like taric or Janna simply offer nothing but utility to unskilled carry champs. Imagine playing Lulu and ulting an ally only to see them waste it and run from fight at full health. This changes in high silver and up tho

AlienPrimate1 votes

If your ADC wants to just farm then let them and wait for a gank. By your tower is where you want to be and you lose nothing by sitting there all game as long as your enemies aren't roaming. Just let them be passive and wait to get a lead from a gank. Going in by yourself and dying is always your fault even if your ADC is in range to help. As long as you are even in cs and the score is 0-0 you shouldn't worry about trying to trade all the time. Just wait for the enemy to get impatient and screw up if you have a passive ADC.

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