I've seen new talon's kit and tnh his kit seems too perfect for jungle, I mean reducing his movespeed by 15, giving him an ability not usable in lane, replacing his long BLINK with a medium range DASH, I dont believe he will be a solid mid, he has nearly 0 outplay potencial, he will either be ahead or be useless, instead he ia very good at TRAVELLING around the map...
I would really like it if he would be balanced for mid
Commit Sudoku3 voteshe is suppose to be like aurelion sol in the idea you shove wave and roam for kills
po crlh sff1 votesexcept he is nothing like aurelion? aurelion still has a lot of tools that make him very viable in lane, which is why he is mostly played there. New talon is just as binary as before except even more predictable than before, he his all about ganking power now!
Timethief491 votesOnly problem will be low sustain and im not sure how good his jungle clear actually is, especially with the new krugs/raptors
po crlh sff1 voteshis new Q actually gives sustain now so he has that going for him... plus his passive works on jungle monsters
Timethief491 voteshow is his mana sustain?
Cubíx1 votesI think with the new E in mind and invis without pinks, his whole goal is to be a roaming mid laner. Like Aurelion sol, he strives by roaming bot or top picking up kills/assists talon will most likely want to do the same. In a sense somewhat of a secondary jungler, not killing camps but definitely ganking.
po crlh sff1 votesyeah but what about actually being a midlanner? he is definitly too good at moving around but what about his actually in combat performance? If he is only good at roaming around and not actually lane, there is nothing stopping from shitfting to jungle
Cubíx1 votesThen that could be said the same for A.sol then right? Talon doesnt have amazing camp clear, and being an assassin he can be bursty. He has a gap closer and a slow for trading in lane plus the d.o.t., I think he'll just perform better in a lane but simply roam more then others. With so much mobility with his E and probably still getting mobi boots early he can roam get a kill and then come back to mid quickly, plus once getting a few kills/assists under his belt that can give him early advantage over his mid and just roll over them.
Basically a roaming mid laner is still a mid laner, they just get fed in different ways.
po crlh sff1 votesnot quite, they are diferent champs with diferent strenghts, however A.sol is definitly more suited for mid than jungle. First of all he cant even hide in bush, secondly his roaming tool has a long CD and his jungle clear is probably worse than new talon. As a mid however he has decent range, decent cc as well as constant dps that doesnt hinder his movement comands, more importantly aurelion has a high skill cap and a relatively complex kit, basically aurelion has acess to flexible option while lanning, he has the tools to play ofensive and defensive depending wheter ahead or behind.
New talon however has a simpler, shorter ranged and mechanically weaker/less complex complex than his previous combo, they basically mashed his Q and E togheter but made it weaker by having shorter range and being a dash. This is incredible unhealthy because either he has damage to cheese or he is useless, he cant play around this, old talon barelly could use is E for outplays and his in combat mobility just got even more binary and predictable, he still has nothing to fall on if behind. Plus he is about to be re released, he is probably gonna get nerfs on top... Basically he is weaker mid than before and a lot stronger jungler, what's gonna keep him from being discount kha'zix weaker brother?
MagicFlyingLlama1 votesHe will be a midlaner who spends most of his time bot, like pre-nerf taliyah, pre-nerf aurelion, pre-nerf ahri, and pre-nerf (wow, that was a long time ago, huh?) kassadin.
Commit Sudoku1 votestalon isnt suppose to lane in the normal sense of trading and keeping up wave control like other laners he is a special flower because riot leaned on the idea lets make him a big roamer. here is why he wont jungle though, sure he wont be actually looking to win his lane but win other lanes like a jungler. Let me tell you something though.... come close let me whisper it to yah. <you make more money and level faster in midlane because minions>jungle creeps assassin items arent cheap>