talon slightly overnerfed

po crlh sff·3/12/2016, 9:07:41 PM·18 votes·1,973 views
Champion.gg - Talon Middle Stats, Builds, Runes, Masteries and Counters

Come on riot don't you think you may have overdone it? Its been so long since his winrate was this low, 49,79%! his winratio was steady for a couple of patches then you introduced DoD and his play rate spiked while his winratio droped (all part of a normal cicle) but then, afte the DoD hype faded, his winratio and play ratio were returning to normal and yet you decided give him a 2 way nerf.

Considering his mana troubles the mana cost should've been enough considering his low ult cooldown has always been one of his strenghts or even keeping the mana costs and nerfing the cd should've sufficed. Right now certain match ups are absolutely hell, personally the most notorious is the fizz match up where the one thing i felt that gave me an edge was the fact that the ult CD was lower, adicionally the bot roams got severely afected (altough that was probably the point).

Considering the harsh drop in winrate is it too much to ask for a slight ult cd reduction? Hell some mere 5 seconds less would make me happier just so that late game he mantains his former glory. I dont think its that big of a request considering the ult cooldown of some other midlanners (lux for example) plus he kinda rellies on his ult for survivability.

22 Comments

DropFill3/12/2016, 9:39:07 PM4 votes

Thank god they nerfed him. Was stupid to come back to lane, so he would full combo me even though he wasn't ahead nearly killing me just for me to B and 30s later he did the same again. He deserved those nerfs. And zed also needs some too

taleofsonata3/12/2016, 10:16:32 PM3 votes

Leblanc Is even LOWER than him probably the Lowest among assassin stop complaining.

pE4CbxDPQO3/12/2016, 9:27:37 PM3 votes

I assume his wr will climb as we get used to him again. It was really cool that at 20+%cdr your ult was basically up after every time you backed, but since it isn't anymore we'll have to find some more efficient ways to play / build maybe. Let's not jump the gun, our boy is still strong.

Ionian3/12/2016, 9:11:48 PM2 votes

I love this patch. No sarcasm.

ßurst3/12/2016, 9:30:48 PM1 votes

Meanwhile Riven..

Scramrail3/12/2016, 9:14:29 PM1 votes

I don't really know how balance is viewed in terms of win rate, but imo 49.79 seems like a pretty balanced state to me being so close to 50.

There are other champions suffering FAR lower win rates at the moment than Talon, who again seems to be in a pretty balanced state with essentially a 50/50 win rate.

MunchCrunchLunch3/12/2016, 10:20:06 PM1 votes

he counters zed. yet he loses to zed more than not after the nerf. yes he has been over nerfed. idk why you'd nerf him before zed.

Anu3isII3/12/2016, 10:21:16 PM1 votes

Like Win Rate means everything...

H4C1lM1aRJ3/12/2016, 10:23:36 PM1 votes

Personally, I'm glad his playrate/winrate went down. Means less chance of a mirror matchup in blind normals. :^}

Plus his ult nerf wasn't /too/ bad. With scaling CDR runes his late game ult is still a fairly low CD. Not to mention he's fundamentally still the same Talon. Just means you gotta adapt early game. Play a bit safer, and choose when to pick a fight. All in all the nerf could've been worse. Thank your lucky stars.

Desiderium3/13/2016, 5:14:55 AM1 votes

He's fine. Ghostblade first then build Warhammer afterward. Turn it into either Cleaver or Essence Reaver. Either way you'll have 20% CDR through the midgame which is fine. His ult doesn't need to be up all the time.

1 800 MID LANE3/13/2016, 5:27:20 AM1 votes

You're complaining about a 50% win rate? I'd say that's about as balanced as it's going to get.