Can someone on the balance team look at this graph?

Shaian·3/20/2018, 9:41:40 PM·1 votes·315 views

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYvZTq2WAAEoMKE?format=jpg

And give maybe a statement... or find some time investigating abit? I'd gladly help. I really do...

I dont think a mage should ever be at 30% winrate lategame. Especially with that low of a playerbase. Her anti-scaling has found a new peak.

Edit: different graph, this time from op.gg: https://imgur.com/a/LFZ81

A major part of the zyracommunity doesnt find her satisfying to play anymore since preseason start. The 7.24 changes didnt do much except bringing more „sucks to play her“-moments.

4 Comments

Vekkna3/20/2018, 9:49:03 PM2 votes

Heya, Shai. I've seen a lot of extremely odd graphs for late game on that site, and they get weirder and weirder as you restrict by higher rank (typically beginning at plat). There probably aren't enough long games at higher elo for the graph to be representative of a champ's actual performance.

If you sort by bronze-gold+, you see a win spike late game. If you sort by diamond+, you see a better example of what I mean about sample size with Zyra's win rate from 10-50 minutes going from 100% to 0%. That's an issue with the data, not the champ.

ChompyWulf3/20/2018, 10:39:06 PM1 votes

How about instead we first look at that 55%+ winrate at 20 minutes. Because seriously, how many games are ended 20-25 minutes now compared to 30+, much less 40+?

Mezo3/21/2018, 5:36:54 AM1 votes

I'm tired of Riot IGNORING Zyra since the start of Pre Season. Literally they destroyed her Kit and the Synergy between her abilities !! Poke Supports shouldn't get outdamaged by other supports, But right now most of them do the same damage with better sustain in lane Because of Bone Plating&Second Wind or even blocking Zyra damage with Big Fat Shields and healing overtime without any cost ! The main damage of Zyra is her plants and now all of it dies Instantly and that Destroyed her Kit in my opinion.

I'll leave something here~

Rylai's Crystal Scepter Nerf in patch 6.24. *Removing Queen's Tribute from Eye of the watchers patch 8.2. *The Lack of Magic pen in the new Rune forge system. *Liandry's Torment Nerf "rework" patch 8.4. *And ofc the mini rework in 7.24 All of these changes and more affected Zyra, although most of these changes made for other champions not Zyra particulary.

I like how Riot thought about AD Assassins when they decided to Nerf Duskblade of Draktharr and buffing most of them "don't wanna say overbuffing", And ignoring Zyra after nerfing her core items in mid and support , As Zyra main i know how she relying on Magic Pen and how much old runes system was useful for her by taking Magic Pen Quintessence & Marks & glyph and scaling hp seal , But the only Magic Pen you can get from the new runes system is Sudden Impact and it's not valid choice for Zyra.

At the end i wish you keep posting about her issues cuz i'm really disappointed of Balance team ignore, Good luck.