AP Malphite really needs to have his scalings gutted. There is nothing okay about his current state.

Yenn··5 votes·1,981 views

https://i.imgur.com/vYN0U5e.jpg

This is a 1.7k damage combo with Luden's + Sorcerers + Oblivion Orb. He dived for me and my entire team collapsed on him, so he immediately flashed away after comboing me; he could have stayed on top of me and gotten a few more autos in for more damage.

The end result is that I can never join a fight while Malphite is alive. My auto with Rapidfire is 700 range, his ult is 1000 range and moves at 2200 speed. It takes 0.3 seconds for his ult to connect with me from auto range; there's no way to avoid it.

This is basically a better version of Annie with no skill floor and less counterplay. At least if Annie wants to do this, she needs to have her Flash up or flank, both of which can be played around. Against Malphite, I have no way to play against him unless his ult is down.

There is zero reason a champion like this should be sitting at 52% win rate above Diamond, and even less reason for him to even have AP scalings like this. The damage is too high for how little counterplay it provides, and how little skill it requires.

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ZephyrDrake5 votes

you know, you could just flash his ult or not clump together like idiots. You can ward over walls to see where he is coming from. You can have someone on your team actually be on top of him and annoy him so that he can't get to you as easily. What you are saying is literally the same thing as "this champion flanked us this is unfair!" Hell you want to know something very simple you can buy to deal with AP Malph? item 3155! does wonders against him.

Yenn3 votes

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you know, you could just flash his ult or not clump together like idiots. You can ward over walls to see where he is coming from. You can have someone on your team actually be on top of him and annoy him so that he can't get to you as easily. What you are saying is literally the same thing as "this champion flanked us this is unfair!" Hell you want to know something very simple you can buy to deal with AP Malph? item 3155! does wonders against him.

I'm not sure if you have trouble reading or something, but you might have missed the part where his ult out-ranges my auto by 300-450 range. He doesn't need to flank, which is why he's basically a better version of Annie. If I try to auto any of his front lines, he's in range to ult me. Annie has counterplay because she either needs to Flash or flank. Malphite does not have this requirement.

Nobody above Wood V is buying Hexdrinker against a 3x AD team, and especially not in lane against Draven. Even if I did buy Hexdrinker (lmfao), it would absorb 220 damage, making my effective health 1752. His combo did 1708, and as mentioned in the post, he flashed away instead of autoing me.

After losing lane because I bought Hexdrinker against Draven + Thresh (again lmfao), I'm left with 44 health, and dead if he autos me instead of just immediately flashing.

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ZephyrDrake2 votes

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Yenn3 votes

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yeah, that hexdrinker you have in that screenshot sure saved you... oh wait! you did not have a hexdrinker but two IEs and the makings of a Zeal item. Sorry that you have the reaction time of a slug that you cannot react to a Malph that is walking towards you since you say he doesn't need to flank. Sorry that you have such a terrible team that they cannot deal with the Malph that is walking towards you in plain sight. You are right my comment contributes nothing of value. Because you know, lying about the items you have provide plenty of value. Disrespecting what a champion can do provides plenty of value. When you actually comeback to reality you can reply to me ok?

Is this a troll post?

> Even if I did buy Hexdrinker (lmfao), it would absorb 220 damage, making my effective health 1752. His combo did 1708, and as mentioned in the post, he flashed away instead of autoing me.

> After losing lane because I bought Hexdrinker against Draven + Thresh (again lmfao), I'm left with 44 health, and dead if he autos me instead of just immediately flashing.

His ult from 550 (my auto range) takes 0.26 seconds to connect. I have 60 ms latency. I have 0.2 seconds to react, but as you can clearly see in the screenshot, my Flash is not up and I have no way to avoid it even if I react instantly.

You're literally just spewing words without reading or processing anything I typed, or acknowledging the math that proves you have no idea what you're talking about. You're not even arguing with me, you're just screaming the same thing over and over and ignoring counterpoints. Mods shouldn't be allowing this.

ZephyrDrake3 votes

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Is this a troll post?

> Even if I did buy Hexdrinker (lmfao), it would absorb 220 damage, making my effective health 1752. His combo did 1708, and as mentioned in the post, he flashed away instead of autoing me.

> After losing lane because I bought Hexdrinker against Draven + Thresh (again lmfao), I'm left with 44 health, and dead if he autos me instead of just immediately flashing.

His ult from 550 (my auto range) takes 0.26 seconds to connect. I have 60 ms latency. I have 0.2 seconds to react, but as you can clearly see in the screenshot, my Flash is not up and I have no way to avoid it even if I react instantly.

You're literally just spewing words without reading or processing anything I typed or the evidence that you have no idea what you're talking about. You're not even arguing with me, you're just screaming the same thing over and over and ignoring counterpoints. Mods shouldn't be allowing this.

they are allowing you to post to begin with. Hexdrinker would have done a lot, positioning better would have done a lot. You know what someone is capable of doing and you are using every excuse imaginable just to not admit that YOU screwed up. Sorry but if a Malph is walking towards me and i don't have flash i would not let him get anywhere near me. I would instantly start backing away but obviously that is too much for you to handle.

Vlada Cut1 votes

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you know, you could just flash his ult or not clump together like idiots. You can ward over walls to see where he is coming from. You can have someone on your team actually be on top of him and annoy him so that he can't get to you as easily. What you are saying is literally the same thing as "this champion flanked us this is unfair!" Hell you want to know something very simple you can buy to deal with AP Malph? item 3155! does wonders against him.

item 3156 item 3139 item 3102 item 3157 Kaisa

Dasdi961 votes

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item 3156 item 3139 item 3102 item 3157 Kaisa

The sad thing is kaisa can build 3 of these items and still have a legit build that does hypercarry level damage.

Vlada Cut1 votes

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The sad thing is kaisa can build 3 of these items and still have a legit build that does hypercarry level damage.

Remember AP Kai'Sa with item 3139 and item 3157 from Season 8? Worst, era, of, adc's, ever. SHE WAS LITERALLY TANKY AS A BRUISER. And yet, could delete crit adcs on full build...

Vezeuse2 votes

you could just flash his ult

Agree with the other advice (especially Hexdrinker buy), but this is just terrible advice. Flash has a 300 sec cd, Malphite ult is 80 sec cd at max rank barring any CDR. Yeah you can flash it once, what about the other 2(+) times?

Darkdemon6533 votes

You should have purchased at least a Hexdrinker instead of a pointless second IE.

Craft Zeppelin2 votes

--Removed by Moderation-- To the people who don't get it. Malphite is being played in almost EVERY position aside from ADC this patch in high elo and especially in mid. I'm sick and tired of seeing full ap Malphite jungle/top/mid/support.

Even as midlaner, you have little to do since once he reaches lvl 6 you are to experience counterplay lower than Malzahar. You do not need to "aim at the team" you just need to delete one person. With flash up you will have ridiculous range to accomplish this.

Vezeuse1 votes

Yeah, the worst thing about AP Malphite is laning against him. Straight up no counterplay imo.

ModJikker1 votes

Hey,

Let's leave Ranks out of this discussion. I've gone ahead and done a quick edit on your comment.

That being said, AP Malphite is disgusting having played against it myself on an alt account and I agree something needs to be done.

[poppy-wink]

Posui Gart2 votes

Hexdrinker/PD would save you Mercs would let you live a bit longer and probably save you Having an actual support would probably save you too Malphite could be op now or not, you completely ignored his threat and died for it. Good luck and be careful next time

Sinister Anubis2 votes

lol.all the downvotes from people spamming him to climb lol. I agree so reason a tank designed champion should be able to 1 shot squishys. This design is toxic.

Rithwin1 votes

play better.

BrightWîngs1 votes

the double IE is triggering.....

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