Can we please hotfix Camille ?

DoktorKaiser·Dec 15, 2016·17 votes·2,191 views

So that we can actually enjoy the holiday gameplay ? This is one of the most broken releases in recent times honestly...

32 Comments

Zane ZephyrDec 15, 201612 votes

You must have forgotten about ekko's release where his ult costed no mana among other things

Anubhav RocksDec 15, 20169 votes

That was insanely broken. he itself was so broken when he was released, not to talk about base damage and ap ratios.

DoktorKaiserDec 15, 20163 votes

At least they didnt know about the tank build back then :S

1 800 MID LANEDec 15, 20161 votes

Ohhhh-ho-ho-ho really now?

https://youtu.be/XS1CiWvQtbk?t=1m49s

DoktorKaiserDec 15, 20162 votes

[slayer-pantheon-rainbows]

Shadow HazardDec 15, 20162 votes

Or when release kindred's % damage wasn't capped against monsters. And can't forget about double health bar tk.

LadyRenlyDec 15, 20166 votes

she is not even that broken?

HoneyBadgerNZDec 15, 20165 votes

To be honest i'd be ok with her if they just removed her true damage. The second part of the Q already gets bonus damage... Why make it true damage?

She outclasses Olaf in terms of consistent true damage, especially since he has to build tank.

FourVsFiveDec 15, 20164 votes

Shield: Check Healing: Check Mobility: check Makes a wall no one can escape: WTF!

I find her R is very unhealthy for the game, Enemy team sees other team picked no champions that can knock a champion back, they last pick Camille GG. Her ganks with R are dumb. You can caught out any one late game and win easy.

SukishooDec 15, 20163 votes

And what exactly is wrong with her that would warrant a hotfix?

Shuyin178Dec 15, 20163 votes

Just play Tahm Kench top lane, he is her strongest counter so far. She ults you? Eat the bitch then spit her out of the circle. She E-jumps onto you? Move to the left or the right, tongue-punch her fartbox 3 times, Q for the stun, then eat her after a few slaps.

bad arcade kittyDec 15, 20161 votes

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Just play Tahm Kench top lane, he is her strongest counter so far. She ults you? Eat the bitch then spit her out of the circle. She jumps onto you? Move to the left or the right, tongue-punch her fartbox 3 times, Q for the stun, then eat her.

so you can carry her out of her ult in your belly?

Ulquiorra995Dec 15, 20163 votes

You spit her in front of her. You can't leave yourself but if you eat her and walk to the edge you spit her outside.

WheatloafDec 15, 20163 votes

https://twitter.com/RiotJag/status/809223610741100544

Well what do you know, they actually did it. Doesn't seem too extreme, but that's to be expected when she's only been out a few days (and however much people would love to compare this to release Xin/LeBlanc, no.)

Irelia BotDec 15, 20162 votes

Given day 2 info she is under preforming in ranked at a 38.2% win rate and within the realm of balanced in normals being at 52.9%

Nathaniell1Dec 15, 20161 votes

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Given day 2 info she is under preforming in ranked at a 38.2% win rate and within the realm of balanced in normals being at 52.9%

where did you find 38% ranked winrate?

Irelia BotDec 15, 20161 votes

http://www.lolking.net/champions/camille#!/overview

I don't know how much I cna trust lolking with their new system but the one the other guy posted likely is a little more accurate

Also could use http://lolalytics.com/champion/Camille/Top/

which has her at a 48.22% win rate in top lane. wich might increase a little once people figure out how to play her right or might not as people learn how to play against her.

All the info is suggesting she is not really over preforming compared to other champs.

PB4UAMEDec 15, 20161 votes

The data I saw for her winrate was 51.13% top, and 49.5% jungle source: http://lolmasters.net/champion/Camille/Top

LovelleDec 15, 20162 votes

There are people that are actually defending Camille, even after dying to her repeatedly under their own towers. I just don't get it.

She does a little of everything too well at the moment.

DoktorKaiserDec 15, 20163 votes

I just dont understand what genius thought that an ability which you cant flash or blink out of was a good idea... I mean yeah she also does retarded amounts of damage with 2 damage items then goes to have 4000 hp and tons of resistance, its been seen before, also has extremely long range mobility-cc spell that can jump over walls and also can be used to escape, the cc was needless there, a slow would be more than enough. Also her passive wtf, why does she need it if she is not going glass cannon, RIOT themselves stated that they want her to build tanky... But all that aside, just let me flash out of her ulti for crying out loud.

PB4UAMEDec 15, 20162 votes

Why does Poppy need a passive shield that shields her for 20% of her max health (from all damage, not just 1 of three types) when she auto attacks someone if she's not supposed to build glass cannon?

Why does Jinx need a 70% attack speed steroid and 10% increased physical damage and AoE on her auto attacks if she's not supposed to build tanky? wtf rito

It's almost like tanky champions often have a defensive steroid. Crazy, I know. Also, hear me out here, often times the damage champions have damage steroid too. Its insane, I know, but I'll give you a few minutes to collect your thoughts.

DoktorKaiserDec 15, 20162 votes

I dont see poppy 1 shotting me without any counterplay but ok...

Grumpy ReaperDec 15, 20162 votes

there was a time where riot finally neerfed tank poppy(the strong one after the rework, where she dominated the meta for a good 4 weeks). people decided to build her ad then, in the jungle. back then her ad scalings were ridicolous( because she was meant to be a tank) and that led to a poppy melting your face just like the pre rework one on steroids. E against the wall,trinity proc, Q on the ground, W , trinity proc. dead. quite literally. camille is no different. you just have to wait 2 seconds after the inital Q to get the true damage burst, poppy didn't need any longer back then

bad arcade kittyDec 15, 20161 votes

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Why does Poppy need a passive shield that shields her for 20% of her max health (from all damage, not just 1 of three types) when she auto attacks someone if she's not supposed to build glass cannon?

Why does Jinx need a 70% attack speed steroid and 10% increased physical damage and AoE on her auto attacks if she's not supposed to build tanky? wtf rito

It's almost like tanky champions often have a defensive steroid. Crazy, I know. Also, hear me out here, often times the damage champions have damage steroid too. Its insane, I know, but I'll give you a few minutes to collect your thoughts.

poppy has a nowhere near as good burst as camille

DearPearDec 15, 20161 votes

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I just dont understand what genius thought that an ability which you cant flash or blink out of was a good idea...

It was part of the original Fiora rework design. It kind of make sense.

I think that one should be able to flash out of the ult, but not dash out. Appart from that I've faced some Camille, I've played her myself, she did not feel so strong out of the lane. She's a good laner tho.

DanjengDec 15, 20162 votes

She's pretty much the equivalent of release Xin, but in Season 7.

PB4UAMEDec 15, 20161 votes

I've seen zero 1 vs 5s as her, not the whole board spammed with videos of her 1 v 5 pentaing or at least getting a triple to quad as was release xin. The better xin one virtually every game (if it was mirror), and if just one team had him, they won unless he int-fed or AFKed.

http://lolmasters.net/champion/Camille/Top#! compare that to a 51% winrate when no one knows how to counter her or play against her (and half my teams so far hven't even understood her kit) and well, you're point is just laughably wrong and ridiculous.

SH AzykanDec 15, 20161 votes

Chogath Darius Diana Fiora Irelia Poppy TahmKench Volibear I have seen dominate a camille so far (I was the diana, killed her 6 times in lane alone). I really dont think she is broken. however I do think the true damage scaling on the 2nd part of Q needs toned down in exchange for something though. Right now she is killing tanks way too easily where she isn't even focusing carries like her ult suggests she should.

FioraWillCarryDec 15, 20161 votes

I give it a week before everyone starts crying how weak Camille is and needs buffs.

MissingKayoDec 15, 20161 votes

Why hotfix something near, if not perfectly balanced?

DunkinNoobsDec 15, 20161 votes

Somebody doesn't remember release Braum. Or release GP rework. Or release Sion rework. Or release Ekko. Or release Aurelion Sol. Or release Graves rework. Or release Ahri rework. Or release Garen rework. Or release Lucian rework. Or release Malzahar rework. Or release MF rework. Or Release Morde rework. Or Release Skarner rework. Or release Nidalee rework. Or release Poppy rework. Or release Quinn rework. Or release Veigar rework.