What champions besides Brand and Teemo really benefit from Liandry's?

AstroFerrari ·Dec 10, 2016·2 votes·831 views

TSIA. I want to begin testing it's effectiveness on different champions. Any tips are appreciated.

13 Comments

Titanium70Dec 10, 20162 votes

Right now: Nearly everyone because as sad as it is, it's one of the best Items a mage can build to deal more DMG, 80 AP + 15 Pen alongside a nice burn. There are only 3 Items with more DMG, item 3285 item 3089 item 3003 . Even Morello and Rod are less effective.

And before anyone complains about the full effect: All you need to get the full effect in a Teamfight is one tanky dude with item 3110 or item 3143 .

PoskeDec 10, 20161 votes

Swain cass malza

And on teemo you dont really want to build liandrys mainly because it gives 0% cd reduction and you want those 40% to spam the map

Eh teemo is in horrible spot itemization wise

Final Spark LuxDec 10, 20161 votes

Anyone that has magic damage spells. You dont NEED to have a dot built into your kit to benefit from the item, it's just really good synergy for the champs that do happen to have a DoT in their arsenal already. That being said, this probably isn't something you're gonna wanna build over something like item 3285 if you're vs squishy targets that you can burst. Liandries is really good vs tanks though.

bad arcade kittyDec 10, 20161 votes

you know, i made a thread with a question if it is any good on brand and they told me that brand's passive resets liandry's... but it seems not true

if it is not true then i don't see much reason to get lyandry over ordinary mage stuff except for its flat mpen... but then, a void staff as your third item would likely be better and for flat mpen you can get just guise

just because champs apply dot doesn't mean they benefit from additional dot more than champs which don't apply dot

they benefit from mpen though

EMetaDec 10, 20161 votes

I'll occasionally pick it up on Zyra or Heimer if the opposing team is building [much] more hp than mr. If you're going to get a void staff anyway, it's a bit of a waste, but if the opposing team isn't building mr, the flat pen can be more effective. I think there are some Rumbles who are playing around with it.

In ARAMs I'll sometimes put it on Mundo, if it stays a poke-heavy game into mid-late game. The AP is a waste, but he loves that flat pen, and since he stays alive forever, the % damage adds up.

RákãñDec 10, 20161 votes

Any mage champ really. It's really good vs tanks.

Void is good vs squishies with MR. While Torment is good against with actually tank builds.

JayHog1992Dec 10, 20161 votes

Malzahar uses it well with his E, Rumble uses it well when chasing enemies with Q working, Heimer works semi well, his abilities and charged turret shots proc it, but not normal turret shots and Ziggs works sorta well.

crzymdscntstDec 10, 20161 votes

Zyra Plants proc it. (Combo it with Rylai's.) Together that's a poke-cocktail and then you build burst or durability.

Heimerdinger Used to arguably be the best champ in the game for Magic Pen, then the rework sorta passively nerfed it I think. It's more about the magic pen than the % burn. The logic being that his turrets deal magic damage, so each hit would do pretty much true damage that's increased damage. (56 flat magic pen, -20 from Abyssal, magic resist that's negative if I recall actually increased damage) Durability of them being what it is in combination with the turrets only applying Heimer's effects onto the laser portion... they aren't what they used to be with it. To sum up pre-rework Heim in this sense... his turrets (Green ones) removed Armor and MR with each successive hit up to -50 of both.

Maybe I'm wrong, but his basic turret shots are not really scaling with his Pen. The lasers apply everything under the sun though, so on-hit's like it and Luden's apply still, but not like they used to.

FireDrizzleDec 10, 20161 votes

Zac and Malzahar haven't been mentioned.

OglafDec 10, 20161 votes

One of the best damage items on Zac and Sejuani because of the inherent tankiness also offered by the item. Really, any beefy "AP Bruiser"-like character can use it to great effect.

I also heard rumours that item 3068 triggers it, but that may not be true. if true, however, quite a lot of tanky Champions could probably combo the two.

Fuh QueueDec 10, 20161 votes

I use the rylais/Liandry's torment combo on amumu and Mundo. Building full tank around those 2 items. The burn is a consistent damage source with a permanent slow to double the damage since their aoe doesn't stop.