Why is there a 4x support tank nerf coming?

Wild Geese··4 votes·955 views

Less minion gold (so less spoils of war) on Targon Less Gold per second on Targon, so less tank items... A far worse Iron Solari active. Resolve no longer as much HP, especially as secondary (RIP Glacial).

I really hope they reconsider nerfing TahmKench after all this.

17 Comments

meowwow76 votes

isn't all the minion gold getting funneled into the cannon so if anything else wouldn't it be a buff to anyone that properly times their stacks for the cannon?

Pika Fox1 votes

Hypothetically, yes. But this also means cannons are going to be even more vital and you need to go into melee range to claim it, meaning you can easily get harassed off. Its a buff if you can get every single one, but realistically, not gunna be true.

IainG101 votes

Theoretically yes; there's only one problem with this, and that's the fact that some ADCs are asshats and will take the cannon given half the chance. Support is already a fairly thankless role, and Riot have just given the ADC a way to directly troll us....

Mysticman894 votes

Isn't there more minion gold on cannon minions though, which is what targon users tend to prioritize? Not sure the first thing will actually be a net nerf for tank supports as a result. It might, since cannon minions aren't always an option, but it's not clear how the math works out.

you blac irl3 votes

cause they are extemely op?

Draehl1 votes

Aside from Tahm's current insane peel they were only really OP in the preseason (especially, Leona, thank god for her nerf + Aftershock nerf) but they feel pretty good right now. If anything, enchanters are the strongest at this exact moment.

you blac irl1 votes

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Aside from Tahm's current insane peel they were only really OP in the preseason (especially, Leona, thank god for her nerf + Aftershock nerf) but they feel pretty good right now. If anything, enchanters are the strongest at this exact moment.

nah they are both strong and in need of nerf you are acting like taric and bruam need no nerf

Pika Fox1 votes

Leona wasnt even that amazing. Her main counters are still much better than her (good luck playing leo into morg/lulu etc)

FOR JUSTICE3 votes

Gold part is debateable, as all their doing is shifting that gold to cannons.

130x1 votes

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Gold part is debateable, as all their doing is shifting that gold to cannons.

This is yet another stupid change. It makes 0 sense and will simply be annoying.

One thing I can say with certainty, as a jg main, is I am going to summoner 11 those cannon minions all day long. We won't afford to be able to let it go.

Leylania2 votes

I'm happy that the nerfs to them are this heavy, tank supports as a whole were completly op imo. If the winrates drop too hard they gonna buff them up again anyway

Pika Fox2 votes

Tank supports arent even meta atm. Most arent even playable.

Leylania5 votes

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Tank supports arent even meta atm. Most arent even playable.

What. Like. What. You know that Alistar, Tahm and Braum are THE meta supps right now, alongsite with Janna and Lulu right?

Pika Fox1 votes

Tahms only meta because his kits always been broken, and glacial is too good on him, and ali is always decent. The only reason tahm is meta is because he is partly a heal and shield support with his W, and those are whats meta.

HouseOfSin1 votes

Solari isn't worse: It just got better at peeling for carries. They redirected it's strength.

Kaioko1 votes

Gold part is just a shift to cannon minions. I guess you can argue that it makes it more dangerous to play around but I don't see that as a bad thing.

Locket maybe? but it's been a little on the strong side for a while causing the shield meta we have today. I don't really know how I feel about that one personally.

Resolve health is better on a per level basis and breaks even at level 9 and double the effectiveness post that which is the problem with tank supports overall (godly early, weak late).

Modl Ryden l1 votes

I read somewhere that they're moving some of the gold from minions and last hitting to everyone's passive gold generation.

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