Off Meta Supports CAN work ... within certain conditions

CarameI Frappe··7 votes·1,378 views

Too often, I find people getting flamed for not picking meta supports, even in normals. This is truly sad because out of 140+ champions, people are forced to pick things that aren't fun for them like Enchanters for example (no offense Janna Soraka players). While I also understand that off-meta supports can be worrisome, they can work.

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and sometimes they don't.

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But let me make something clear- it only works within certain conditions. I don't just pick whomever I want at any match up thinking i'm a boss ... there has to be given requirements for my picks to work out. For example, I also play Poppy very well as a support but I look for the right circumstances:

  • Do they have a squishy support?

  • Did they pick a support that counters me? (Morgana Lulu Braum)

  • Does our team have too many front-line tanks and not enough DPS?

  • Does my pick sync well with my ADC? (Not great with KogMaw, offers no real protection for him)

  • Will my pick get poked too hard to stay in lane? (Brand Karma Zyra)

  • How does my pick manage if it goes into late game?

  • How skilled am I when playing this pick compared to my other mains?

  • Do they offer anything such as CC, tankiness, shielding, ect?

There's more, but you get the idea. I can't pick say, Lissandra support if their comp is something like Alistar Draven Gragas Ivern Kayle because I would get utterly destroyed and she wouldn't manage too well in the long run (especially team fights). I also wouldn't pick Shen if their team has Rakan Tristana Zed Swain Sejuani because my engages would put me at great risk, and I would be CC'd pretty hard to make it out alive to do anything else. It's all about understanding your champion, what goes well, what will ruin you- ect.

Even a support Nunu Yasuo Rengar can work if you know what you're doing and the circumstances are right. Just be sure to not pick whomever for one particular reason, think of the bigger picture and how it'll play it in team fights, so on and so on.

11 Comments

Digital Daddy2 votes

Now all i can see is a rengar support running back in forth between bushes jumping on you lol

CarameI Frappe6 votes

Had a dozen games this year where I faced a Rengar support and they basically did that to the ADC whenever possible. They wouldn't build support items either but rush item 3147 item 3142 and honestly, it was terrifying. Even when playing supports like Alistar Thresh to try stopping him from making those engages, a successful jump or ult + jump would result in your ADC losing a lot of HP, and that's not counting their ADC from assaulting your ADC.

Pretty effective if the Rengar is any good and the ADC can follow up. Otherwise, the others get caught out and just feed pretty hard lol.

Digital Daddy1 votes

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Had a dozen games this year where I faced a Rengar support and they basically did that to the ADC whenever possible. They wouldn't build support items either but rush item 3147 item 3142 and honestly, it was terrifying. Even when playing supports like Alistar Thresh to try stopping him from making those engages, a successful jump or ult + jump would result in your ADC losing a lot of HP, and that's not counting their ADC from assaulting your ADC.

Pretty effective if the Rengar is any good and the ADC can follow up. Otherwise, the others get caught out and just feed pretty hard lol.

I used to play tank teemo support, yeah it was fun. Enemy team always hated it xD

Worst Kench NA1 votes

Shen is offmeta? He seems like a much better support than a laner or jungler.

CarameI Frappe2 votes

You'd be surprised how often I would get flamed for picking Shen support. Well, maybe not 'flamed' but the ADC would go 'Shen support? Why not an enchanter / real support?'

Then in game, I would get my ADC a kill or i'd kill their support / ADC because they didn't respect how strong my Q is with my W protecting me from their autos.

LordGeovanni1 votes

Same with Nautilus but when you played it in season4 before it got played in lcs you got flamed alot.

Kloqdq1 votes

My friend hates when I pick off-meta support. Like my Bankplank that didn't do damage, didn't survive for very long and was pretty bad. I just Q'd with Bandit and Spellthief.....a lot.

TheMoralSupport1 votes

I don't get why Bard is never played tbh, he's my baby. I'm only gold and I've managed to rack up a 60% winrate on him over 80 games lol. Give our fluffy friend some love

Meepian1 votes

Yeah... I've actually started leveling Lissandra as a support. I have literally played her as nothing but Support, and I'm working on my M6 tokens. But, I had someone who dodged games with me, my ADC, because they didn't have any faith in the champ; they figured I was Trolling (and this was a Normal game). And I played Lissandra twice that day, I had an A+ and an S- game. He really missed out on some solid performances.

...and I am a Support main. I like to think I'm good (or, at least good in terms of the Normals I play) so, when I play something off-meta, I've got an idea that I hope is going to work. Sometimes, my idea is crap and it goes horribly wrong (I only ever played Nasus as a support tank once) and sometimes it works not too bad. I play Nidalee sometimes, that tends to be hit or miss as support. If my ADC decides to roll with a melee or short range champ, I figure Nidalee brings some Snipe to the lane (and heals, and traps). I paired my Nidalee with another player's ADC Rammus and we rofl-stomped the lane. I took a lot more kills than I normally would as a Support, but we were kind of splitting both roles.

Bronze Demon1 votes

metasheeps are morons. below challenger, personal skill > single champ pick

i only play offmeta support and am very happy with the results.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Glad to see such a creative post, and quite thought out. I concur that the off-meta pick has to have forethought put in, both for your lane partner and for your team later. Well said!

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