It is not the jungler's problem that you are spamming abilities 24/7 with no mana usage in mind and runs out of mana. Giving you the blue buff or not is completely up to the jungler, if the jungler decides to give it to you, it is call kindliness, otherwise, there is nothing wrong with not giving you the blue buff, especially the first one.
SirPurrr9 votesIf you're a Lee and I'm a Ziggs, you're a troll for taking Blue and sabotaging me as well as yourself. Sorry, that's just the way it is. Blue gives mana regen and bonus AP. You're wasting the team's resources taking it on Lee even if I died mid. Unless they have a 0 counterplay assassin, there's no reason to assume I'll die instantly when given Blue. Also, junglers don't own Blue anymore than I own mid CS. It's a team resource. Stop pretending the jungle is yours.
Likewise, junglers who ping Blue just as a massive wave is coming to my turret are maybe the biggest trolls of all. They're making me choose between losing lane horribly and being underfarmed or having a key buff. You can do the Wolves or Gromp and wait for me to waveclear before pinging Blue.
The Deckowner2 votesYou are putting out extreme cases, majority of junglers still use mana, not everyone is fucking lee sin rengar.
Leo10242 votesYou're right but I don't know a single jungler that won't take the item that gives you 180% mana regen while in the jungle
The Deckowner1 votesYou know there is this stategy where the jungler rushes some dmg component before completing the jungle item which highly increases their efficiency and creates more early game pressure simply because they got more combat stats.
Jungler's like 
gets barely anything from upgrading the jg item because the gold and exp bonus does not change and the life steal is useless on them, while 
helps clearing a lot more while also giving some combat stat.
Zelorxon4 votesThere is the problem, you picked ziggs.
Brain Errör 4044 votesYou 0/5 by 5 mins? You crying for blue buff? Bitch please, you ain't feeding my shit to your opponent so they can abuse you harder. You 5/0 by 5mins? Aye buddy, take it whenever ya want. Need a gank after? Yeah boi.
Malix Farwin3 votesPSA, it is not yours either.
Beldair2 votesIt's in the jungle right? So there in, it is the Jungler. All buffs/creeps in jungle are the property of the Jungler. That is from Attorney Fiora. I have the document she signed proclaiming that.
The Deckowner1 votesBut I don't have the responsibility to leash you blue on demand, if you want the god damn buff, take it yourself.
SirPurrr1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Deckowner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LAzeR5Qn,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2016-11-13T00:01:31.800+0000)
But I don't have the responsibility to leash you blue on demand, if you want the god damn buff, take it yourself.
You do, it's called intelligent pathing. I'm a JG main and I path in a way that coincides with waveclear by the time I offer Blue.
The Deckowner1 votesMaybe I got more important things to do other than leashing my stupid mid laner blue buff, such as banking other lanes and getting objectives.
SirPurrr1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Deckowner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LAzeR5Qn,comment-id=0004000100000000,timestamp=2016-11-13T02:02:13.561+0000)
Maybe I got more important things to do other than leashing my stupid mid laner blue buff, such as banking other lanes and getting objectives.
If you don't have other camps near Blue up, it probably means you pathed wrong anyway.
The Deckowner1 votesHow does me having camp up near blue contradict me taking dragon?
TyrekGoldenspear2 votes
Before you say a word, mid, shut it. I am SICK of you self-entitled babies crying for blue every time it spawns! What about me? What about my clear? I deal with this every single game! You know what? I'm not ganking you. No buts! You want to live through laning? Manage your mana responsibly or buy a tear!
What... I don't even...
WhaiiSoSerious1 votesLOL
Darkslayer852 votesYes, your manaless Rengar needs blue. I'm so fkin sorry for stopping you from getting a 1 second shorter cooldown on an ability.
Beldair2 votesNot every jungler is manaless... Shaco, Nid, and Elise could use blue buff more than mid if needed.
Darkslayer852 votesMy post implies that I'm only targetting manless junglers.
I get that your Nidalee, Elise, and Shaco need blue.
Ravag32 votesdont forget the cdr rengar could use for more ganks blue provides
Flygunn2 votesIn league, so many issues are caused by people not diversifying, as an an ADC, I learned that when I supp, it is up to me to set up plays no matter who I play; supp, as an ADC, I must be ready to follow up on anything without a ping in advance; as a top, it is always a good idea to get in at least one gank up top as a jg; as a jg, I must constantly check not only for available kills, but ways to free up pressure for my team. What you just mentioned is probably the primary for mids, I only needed to play jg once to realize that jg needs blue just as much as I do if not more, and it is easier for me to build a tear of the goddess than it is for the jg.
BIackfox2 votesMost butthurt I've seen in a long time op. Congrats
ÈvilMorty2 votesIf im playing
I am going to need at least one blue buff to not die especially if my laner uses no mana for example 
i get it that if you pick a jungler that uses mana like 
yes the blue buff is all yours by all means giving me one or 2 is fine idc. However if your 
and just take every blue buff when the mid laner can use it to its fullest thats just being stupid
420 grams1 votesOr just go take it yourself
Beldair1 votesAs one that has learned every role, I have to agree. Just cause you are mid or adc, doesn't mean blue/red buff is for you. Jungler can use those buffs as well.
Let's use Nidalee, she could really benefit from both buffs to super charge her Q and still keep enough mana for all her abilities.
WhaiiSoSerious1 votesThat reminds me.
The moment when you tell ADC's to not take your blue buff and they do anyways.
Sigh...
lolipopevelynn1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Deckowner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LAzeR5Qn,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-11-12T22:58:20.123+0000)
It is not the jungler's problem that you are spamming abilities 24/7 with no mana usage in mind and runs out of mana. Giving you the blue buff or not is completely up to the jungler, if the jungler decides to give it to you, it is call kindliness, otherwise, there is nothing wrong with not giving you the blue buff, especially the first one.
Its my blue buff when I take it because the jg hasn't taken it for himself in 5+ mins.
The Deckowner1 votesif you are a independent being who has the brain to take the left out blue buff then you deserve it.
Zelorxon1 votesPSA: if your jungler gives you blue buff after 7 is not because he's a nice guy and he wants to make your life easier, before 7 you use blue buff to poke and outtrade the enemy, after lv7 YOU USE IT TO PUSH THE WAVE, can't get the turret? keep pushing the wave and eventually the minions will take it or you'll deal a good chunk of damage so when your team comes to take it they'll have the life easier and they won't be aced because the enemy team managed to defend. If you're dead 2 or more times just forget your blue buff unless i absolutely trust you/i know you're gonna outscale like a madman/you're gonna do some crazy shit that will reward me giving it to you, otherwise, just keep waveclearing PSA 2.0: 2 DORANS RING REFUND THE AMOUNT OF MANA OF A WAVECLEAR ON MOST CHAMPIONS and just sit down and try to not be a burden for who's carrying you.
-Yours truly, your jungler.
Shuyin1781 votesHonestly the only times you shouldn't give the blue is if :
Yes it is the jungler's choice if/when to give the blue buff, but to help their tilt/salt levels it doesn't hurt to hand it over unless one or more of the above things is going on.
10Tickler2 votes4: You're behind in Farm because you've Ganked more frequently, and gotten your midlaner HUGE.
5: You're behind in farm because your laners are constantly spamming pings after a successful gank, indicating that they don't feel like sharing themselves.
6: The Extra CDR/AP will help you gank more frequently and with more success.
WhaiiSoSerious1 votesYeah mid! Blue is not yours!
Especially now lol since we are so limited to jungle at early stages. No longer can jg lvl 1 golems/birds.
with that been said. There wont be blue for mid till they remake the jg hahaha!
Unstoppable Monk1 votesSometimes I wish there was a item active that turns your thief midlaner hostile so you can kill him and take his blue.
jaymc11301 votesA jungler who takes blue buffs after the second one (and in most cases even the second one) when his mid laner is anything other than a Yasuo or Katarina is a bad jungler who deserves to lose for having really poor fundamental game play. No jungler needs it, every mid laner needs it. If you want your mid laner to be effective, to be able to waveclear and push to roam and open up territory for you to gain vision control over to set up a play, then you want them to have the buff that makes them more effective at doing this.
Giving the buffs to your laners isn't a matter of pride, or income, or experience or "right" to the buff, its a matter of wanting to win the game or NOT wanting to win the game and choosing to remain a selfish player who costs himself and his teams games.
The Deckowner1 votes
literally need blue to clear camps.
as mid player I have no problem shoving lanes without blue buff when it is already second blue spawning time.
Baby Ghoul1 votesMost junglers have decent mana sustain compared to their mid laners, and that's why second spawn blue buff is most commonly given to them.
Unless you've fallen behind in the jungle, then there's little reason for you not to give it to them. I would say second spawn you should always ask your jungler to make sure they don't need it for something. That is almost like going to someone's lane and taking two waves.
After that though, the buffs are pretty much first come first serve in my opinion and experience. The lanes open up and so does the jungle.
Catastrop1 votesI don't even need blue buff these days, my jungler or any other teammate can take it for all I care.