Convince me thwt garen changes are a buff and not just power shift/nerf

Tychusfindlay918·9/4/2019, 4:27:28 AM·5 votes·1,887 views

You took out the on hit. Great, it was broken. But now there's no legitimate reason for garen to stack AS beyond TF unless he goes some full crit build.

But wait!

His full crit build took a prett heavy hit since he now maxes out on only 30 resists with his Winstead of being able to reliably hit 50 each late game. Squishy builds will be quite a bit squishier.

Just looks like, at best, a power shit to make TF feel a little better at the expense of an already failing cleaver build (which SHOULD be his main playstyle build). At worst, it's actually a straight up nerf with garen losing considerable tanking ability at a time when tankiness already sucks balls.

The w is what allows garens to build heavy AD oriented builds right now. What makes you think that trashing it is going to free room for garen players to try to build AS/AD with new E changes.

Again, the on hit removal, justified. But you cant keep his w giganerfed with his e being much more in check now.

4 Comments

Lrrr Omicronian9/4/2019, 7:02:51 AM4 votes

The rework was SUPPOSED to be net neutral. Garen was buffed just a couple of months ago. He's pretty strong right now, for him.

However, the Garen currently on PBE represents a net nerf of Garen live.

Lrrr Omicronian9/4/2019, 7:25:25 AM2 votes

Incidentally, on-hit wasn't removed because it was broken. They could just have scaled it down, if that were the case. The problem was that it was actually very easy for certain champions to counter and Garen was literally killing himself by using on-hit vs some of the anti on-hit mechanics that are built into this game.They would have needed to write an exception for Garen E on each one of those mechanics, and determined that... this was a sign that maybe it wasn't where they should be looking.

Lrrr Omicronian9/4/2019, 11:50:22 PM2 votes

Leave Garen alone.