Give Draven his old passive back.

1 800 GGTOOEZ·Feb 21, 2017·1 votes·1,439 views

His old passive could easily be balanced just by tuning the numbers. Draven has never been a competitive pick after its removal, and it needs to come back to make him less binary.

16 Comments

Zane ZephyrFeb 21, 20172 votes

Last thing that asshole needs is MORE damage

And he's not "competitive" because people know how to shut him down and make him useless

MaeDoSanFeb 21, 20171 votes

Its stupid how they just removed it without even trying and gave him an unreliable passive which makes no sense Darius has a bleed that they keep changing around but Draven can't have a bleed ?

God RaijinFeb 21, 20171 votes

it'd be WAY too good to give him his old passive back with all the lethality running around. He'd become a 100% pick ban if he got it back.

MaeDoSanFeb 21, 20172 votes

What if his bleed did 1 damage per second ? Wtf anything can be brought close to perfect balance unless you don't want it to

God RaijinFeb 21, 20171 votes

well basically if riot did want to bring his passive back, it would have to 100% be magic damage now. There are just too many lethality options that exist in the game now. Like back in the day when draven had his old passive item 3142 was like the only real flat armor pen item.

MaeDoSanFeb 21, 20171 votes

As long as it infinitely stacks with his q and does a decent amount , really don't care what kinda damage it does

Zane ZephyrFeb 21, 20171 votes

then it would be literally no different than twitch's and wouldn't be useful

MaeDoSanFeb 21, 20171 votes

Twitch poison cannot stack infinitely

God RaijinFeb 21, 20171 votes

Don't u mean "more binary" his new passive is more volatile considering that you only sometimes get to use it

1 800 GGTOOEZFeb 21, 20171 votes

His old passive did damage based on his level, so he didn't need items to do damage with it, and it wouldn't get ridiculous with items. His new passive requires him to get a kill, which means he shits on you harder when he's winning and is weaker when he's not.

God RaijinFeb 21, 20171 votes

yeah but these didn't exist back in the day like they do now item 3814 item 3147 When you get basically free base damage armor pen/lethality gets too good because they basically work like a % damage increase based on the opponents armor. also item 3142 was a lot different back then too

The Lost MarblesFeb 21, 20171 votes

A DoT on a ranged champion who can apply it at a moderate range at no cost needs to be prohibitively weak for it to be balanced in any way.

Which is why Twitch's DoT doesn't do much of anything by itself for most of the game.

If you wanted to make Draven's bleed feasible in this day and age, you'd basically be rehashing Twitch's passive.

KilanostFeb 21, 20171 votes

Can someone tell me what his old passive was? I'm curious.

1 800 GGTOOEZFeb 22, 20171 votes

Physical DoT that did 30 + (4 x level) damage over 3 (?) seconds, which was applied every time Draven crit or hit you with a Spinning Axe and stacked infinitely.