Heimerdinger stated roles are wrong for how is plays. Why?

5050BS··1 votes·906 views

Heimerdinger one of the toxic to the game champs.

His Champ card says he is a Mage, Secondary Support

And yet he plays NOTHING like that, is build nothing like that.

Playing vs him is not about him, its about playing vs the turrets that lock on to any champ who puts a toe in their range. (and yet Zyra plants dont get ONE free auto off on a champ in range)

How is this champ not on the block for a complete rework?

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HudnofskiBleh3 votes

I've heard this question asked to a Diamond 1 player, and he said, "Heimerdinger isn't OP. He just falls under category 'Shit bronzies lose too.'" Not my words. The words of a diamond 1 player

EndlessSorcerer3 votes

Those labels are extremely outdated and not used any more.

Here is a recent subclass list using the new terminology.

Shuyin1781 votes

A good Donger uses his turrets wisely, a great donger can make plays without them and only uses the turrets to keep zone control. He doesn't require a rework of any fashion, he is one of the more unique champions on how his kit works as a whole. His turrets become worthless around mid-game onward because they can get 1-shot easily, and his non-turret basic spells are dodgeable skill-shots.

5050BS1 votes

And yet Zyra is the same but is always getting nerfs.

Plants are 1-shot at lvl 5 All her spells are dodgeable skill-shots (and no stuns) Her Ulted plants are just as easily killed as non-ulted plants

morris11 votes

Turrets are not as spammable as plants. Heimerdinger's spells are also skillshots, arguably twice as difficult to land as Zyra's.

Teemodanegro1 votes

not at all.

RogueWill2 votes

her planst are never one shot since they have a 3 point hp system. You gotta aa 2 on melee, 3 on range

5050BS1 votes

Tell that to Zed, Panth, Morg, LeB, Yasuo, Swain, ect

3 hp is only for AAs, Any cast that does damage can out right kill them or any DOT kills then in less then 2s

RogueWill1 votes

they are hitted by 3 spells. Even dots takes 3 ticks. Enough for the plants to retiliate

Woodakoodashooda1 votes

He relies entirely on the game's AI. A champion that can't win unless players lose to the game's built-in spaghetti code AI is useless. He DOES, in fact, need a rework. I want to see a heim whose kit is centered around the player and NOT the game's unreliable AI.

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