How in the 9 hells is the new death recap MORE BROKEN THAN THE PREVIOUS ONE.

Terozu·Jul 17, 2019·65 votes·16,851 views

HOW. IS. THAT. EVEN. POSSIBLE.

Riot patched it, Death Recap is actually functional.

57 Comments

Shieda KaynJul 17, 201926 votes

By not paying attention to the PBE. The death recap was also all fucked up on there but they did nothing to fix it.

TerozuJul 17, 201940 votes

To be completely honest, I can't even be mad them anymore. It's genuinely impressive how bad they are at coding.

Tuition FeeJul 17, 201924 votes

Gets slain by allied Xerath's Astral Infusion that did 100% true damage for 800 HP

TerozuJul 17, 201923 votes

My first match said my allied karthus killed me via Steel Tempest and Silver Bolts.

TheSingularityJul 18, 20198 votes

A rammus killed me with death lotus dealing 3.2K true dmg

FlashesJul 18, 20191 votes

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My first match said my allied karthus killed me via Steel Tempest and Silver Bolts.

When Karthus combines the DPS of Yasuo and Vayne's tank busting abilities with his execute ult

CevradJul 18, 20192 votes

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My first match said my allied karthus killed me via Steel Tempest and Silver Bolts.

But he did xD You got killed by an allied Karthus who was also Yasuo and Vayne. The game says so so therefore it is so.

HammermancerJul 18, 20191 votes

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My first match said my allied karthus killed me via Steel Tempest and Silver Bolts.

Can we have that champ? Needs more dashes though

14daysuspensionkJul 18, 20191 votes

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Gets slain by allied Xerath's Astral Infusion that did 100% true damage for 800 HP

And allied Akalis deadly venom passive

Hordes66Jul 18, 201914 votes

Stop making excuses and start realizing this dev team is. not. good. at. their. job.

Rit0 is SJWJul 17, 201910 votes

Is it really so hard to take a combat log and aggregate it's data from a game point? OR AM I STUPID?

AnateraJul 18, 20197 votes

Just another day at Riot.

Abibyama IIJul 18, 20197 votes

They finally unleashed the 10 years of spaghetti code

AckelopeJul 18, 20194 votes

the code has gained sentience... it didn't want to change. Now it's letting those years of scheming, of machinations unimaginable to the organic human mind upon us. I would ask for mercy, if it understood the concept of mercy, but all it knows is the cold, hard truth of dying to 500 true damage from singed's mega adhesive.

14daysuspensionkJul 18, 20192 votes

Only thing they fixed is icons that are empty and OLD Evelynn E in your recap.

Vah MedohJul 18, 20192 votes

in my company, that person/team would be fired and hired a new competent one, which would not make spaghetti code.

And all code reusable, because of what is happening now

It like the only good team is the design team (but, as it's starting to go into disney stylish, neither those)

Nea104Jul 18, 20192 votes

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in my company, that person/team would be fired and hired a new competent one, which would not make spaghetti code.

In every serious, professional company.

Pika FoxJul 18, 20193 votes

So youd fire people before conducting a review to see how the issue came about or why, and see if it was even someones fault?

Damn your company must be shit.

Vah MedohJul 18, 20191 votes

A company that looks for product quality, if a teamlead releases something with thouse amounts of bugs, and without testing the app, letting the app that cannot be used, of course it gets fired. It's better to release the app later than release a shitty product.

But before getting fired, they are going to stay in the office giving a quick and real solution.

Pika FoxJul 18, 20194 votes

Yeah, youd be garbage at this. And probably sued for wrongful termination often.

everything is tested first
bugs on live environments dont always show up in testing environments.

You have no idea how this field works, and no idea how these issues arise.

Vah MedohJul 18, 20192 votes

Personal attacks, so mature.

If you do your job wrong, you can be fired. Your poor job can costs losts of thousands of $/€ to the company. A list of more than 60 bugs on a same patch says a lot. I never heard on my company a complain of such level, and works with banks, the firsts ones of our country. And they are very stricts on quality.

So, if you prefer quantity over quality, and you don't care if your employees are bad at their work, I know how your company would end like.

+60 bugs without getting catch in 3 weeks? That sounds like no testing was done. Oh yes, of course they tested, they tested only TFT to add rankeds to a complete RNG where you will climb with luck.

Oh, and by the way, the company I work for, have been twice in a row in high ranks on the Financial Times.

Pika FoxJul 18, 20193 votes

This isnt a data or security breach, LoL is not a bank. Youre comparing apples and oranges. Even then, you dont fire someone for simply making a patch with a security error, else youd have to fire LITERALLY EVERY PROGRAMMER YOU EVER HIRE. No matter what you do, there will always be a back door, as it needs to be accessible and convenient in the first place.

You have exactly ZERO evidence anyone did their job wrong. Terminating an employee without proof of error will not work in your favor unless you give them a big severance package and they agree.

Vah MedohJul 18, 20191 votes

Im not comparing security and games, I'm comparing how things are done.

Of course bugs can occur on any app or game. But when a new app or update gets an incredible amount of bugs that makes it un-usable, it's because:

1 - the team did a bad job. 2 - the team lead did not bother to test it correctly. If he/she did, those things were be solved, or at least, a big part of them.

Zero evidence? The evidence are there. None of my coworkers, teamleads... have ever released any app with that quantity of bugs, and thats because they do what they are supposed to do.

We are working together another company on a new app. You know what is happening to the other company? The bank saw all the bugs they are doing over and over all the sprints. All their work are slowly comming to us, because of what? Yeah, you are right, because we are testing it before going into the bank.

So, the other company what would do? Their workers is making the company lose money, they will keep them? If you would, sorry to say but you will be bankrupt keeping a team like that.

Pika FoxJul 18, 20191 votes

Let me know when your company pushes major changes and backend changes literally every 2 weeks.

Vah MedohJul 18, 20191 votes

We do sprints of 1 to 3 weeks to deliver changes. And we keep all the code we change just in case somethings goes wrong so we know where to look and solve it.

Pika FoxJul 19, 20191 votes

If you want something done for something major, you arent pushing things once every two weeks.

AbiwonKenabiJul 18, 20191 votes

I mean, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't bugs just kind of always going to slip through the cracks?

Feels like every piece of programming I've ever encountered has some kind of oversight, however small or large. These don't even necessarily have to do with bad coding or anything, some things are just so big, something is bound to slip past their notice. That's why updates constantly happen to most programs these days, to constantly improve functionality, security, etc. iOS and Windows aren't just updating for fun.

I'm sure it depends on the situation, but I don't think a whole team should be fired for most bugs, especially not something as harmless as this, where people can still play the game no problem. Old death recap was garbage, its not like we lost anything important. They'll fix it eventually.

Vah MedohJul 18, 20191 votes

Sure, not all the team, but those who were responsible.

As you said, bugs will always be there, but one thing is that a bunch could appear, and another more than +60, which means that someone or some people didn't do their job as they should.

SukishooJul 18, 20191 votes

No. If one does their job wrong they are generally given some kind of notice on that. If they consistently do it wrong, then they can be let go.

Riot for one has also shown that different things work differently across servers. So, testing on the PBE was fairly smooth but coming to live, if they run into a major problem it's not always the people on the team that made said products fault.

Vah MedohJul 18, 20191 votes

That's why I said "you can be fired", depending on the severity of the problems caused.

I don't want to know the quantiy of $ they lost that time they put the capsules that gave prestige points when Aatrox prestige skin was release when someone put the capsules at 1BE on the live servers. And we can imagine what could have happen to the responsable of that.

MasterDCloneJul 19, 20192 votes

This new death recap is so useless tho because it doesnt tell what ability killed me, just which champion did and with what type of damage which is so pointless since u can just look at their build. When i die to something i wasnt sure how i died to, and the recap tells me i died to the combination of basic attacks, items, runes and illoil q, i then ask wtf killed me, pls revert or let me disable because it is also huge ugly thing on my screen that i dont want to look at

StpTlkinAnBndOvrJul 18, 20191 votes

old one wasnt terrible at all u all just cried to much. new one? yea its abs fucking trash in all forms

TerozuJul 18, 201913 votes

Uhhh no, the old one was trash too. Like, pathetically bad. New one managed to break it further.

NielarkenJul 18, 20198 votes

The old one was so trash that it would still use deleted items and old ability images lol

TerozuJul 18, 20199 votes

Its just like the new client.

Yeah it looks pretty, but it's not functional at all.

14daysuspensionkJul 18, 20191 votes

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Uhhh no, the old one was trash too. Like, pathetically bad. New one managed to break it further.

It's a world record.

MasterDCloneJul 19, 20191 votes

at least the old one wasnt noticible on the screen and sorta told u what killed u, id be happy if i could just disable it

JuiceBoxPJul 18, 20191 votes

7 hells* idk it bothered me too much to not correct you.

TerozuJul 18, 20195 votes

No its 9. limbo, lust, gluttony, greed, anger, heresy, violence, fraud, and treachery.

Jeddy017Jul 18, 20191 votes

Riot: And this is to go even. Further. BEYOND!!!!!

PhDs NutsJul 18, 20191 votes

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Riot: And this is to go even. Further. BEYOND!!!!!

SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

Meep ManJul 18, 20191 votes

Whats happening this time?

TerozuJul 18, 20191 votes

Your allied Ashe is going to deal 1000 magic damage to you with items while your allied karthus is spamming steel tempest on you for true damage and silver bolts for physical damage. The enemy Vayne who killed you will obviously have done NaN damage to you while Yasuo is exclusively dealing magic damage.

SukishooJul 18, 20191 votes

To be fair, they never said it was perfect. It does display things more clearly but yes does still have random things occasionally like "dragon killed me with its Infinity Edge"

TerozuJul 18, 20192 votes

You clearly werent on league yesterday.

Literally EVERYTHING in it was wrong.

They patched it with Annie it seems.

SukishooJul 18, 20191 votes

I was, but only played like one or two SR games as I'm more into TFT right now. Though, as I said, they never claimed the new recap to be perfect.

It is still something new. Uses a better back end from the sound of it compared to the old one, but there's always going to be issues when coding something new. We've seen countless times where something appeared to do alright on the PBE but then has massive issues on Live servers. There is no way they are going to be perfectly prepared for something that goes wrong.

SanKakUJul 18, 20191 votes

I don't know what you guys are going on about I feel like complaining about death recap is a meme at this point. I died 3 times last game and I only looked at it once. And it told me about what I'd expect. Most of the damage was physical and also the champion that did the most damage to me was Illaoi whom my ally wasn't helping me kill more quickly.

TerozuJul 18, 20191 votes

Theyve patched it this morning.

It was godawful yesterday.

SanKakUJul 18, 20191 votes

Oh okay I was thinking people were photoshopping this stuff or something because I saw some ridiculous stuff in one of the posts here.