They're removing DFG
Probably the greatest decision to ever grace this earth.
Probably the greatest decision to ever grace this earth.
Rip DF
That was stupid to begin with.
but it worked
But it isn't required now he can recover large amount of health in short periods of time
??? the logic here...
he could DFG and than ult someone for:
15%maxhealth+525+40%(max rank ult)+20%additional magic damage= death
I was referring to his viability in general
too bad fizz and syndra dont need it in the first place lmao
You know who does? THE ONLY MID CHAMPION I ENJOY PLAYING REGULARLY. 
Just go 
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You know who does? THE ONLY MID CHAMPION I ENJOY PLAYING REGULARLY.
She doesn't need it. I've played a stupid amount of Ahri since like level 10 at the start of season 3 and maybe built it twice when I really just needed to smite THIS PERSON IN PARTICULAR. Depending on the buffs she might come out completely on top here.
They're taking away Charm's damage amp too.
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They're taking away Charm's damage amp too.
And they've stated they're going to buff her for it. Did fine without it for a season and a half.
She didn't have it to begin with Riot gave that to her around the end of S3 to justify absolutely gutting every thing else about her kit
So... Basically this is a buff to Yasuo mid. Crap.
Indeed, one of the few melee champions that doesn't get magic res per level... so much buffed.
I windwall your DFG active, now what?
Any sane player wouldn't waste it on a Yasuo that still hasn't used his wall.
What? NO
How am I supposed to play mid
I have a solution:


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Edit: I shrunk it so it would be big. Its called "Katarinas dealing damage" by chatgames or something.
Some one click this and tell me it isnt a virus.
Its not :P its a youtube link. but for some annoying reason i cant just post the link, so i hyperlinked it to the word "This"
I dont know.....Will anyone else confirm this?
Edit: Actually this is where i got the death cape idea XDDD. Used to watch that video so many times xD
Tips Deathcap
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You forgot
and of course 
I didn't. Read it again.
I love the removal of DFG.
It active allowed some champs to instantly delete an opposing squishy with little counterplay, and the range restricted its use to those AP champs that already had little counterplay.
I also have some presonal gripes against the item because every time I try to use it, I either forget to integrate it into my combo, use it but screw up my combo, or somehow manage to use it but not realize that I use it.
once every 90 seconds...
Deathfire Grasp
Active: kill an enemy champion.
That active needs a cooldown of WAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYY more than 90 seconds to be even remotely balanced, let alone fair.
Lol I always forget to use item actives, yet I still did fine with veigar when I played him so I don't think its that bad for him.
It's not that I forget to use item actives, it's that I forget to use DFG's active specifically, along with Bork's active and Gunblade's active (hence why I don't buy either of them).
You should feel proud that you don't use DFG on Veigar because of the compensation buffs he's getting. How you play Veigar will get buffed, and how others played him with their DFG rush will be removed.
About goddamn time. And with it gone, now certain champs that relied on it can get some real work done to their kits.
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About goddamn time. And with it gone, now certain champs that relied on it can get some real work done to their kits.
right like that's gonna happen....
were just gonna get dfg removed with zero compensations , meanwhile wait and see how assasins and AD get nothing more than a slap in the wrist
trufe
Man.. what Am I gon do now if i need another 120ap item? build a 2nd zhonyas, might as well ;C

doesnt give 120 :CC
the armor would be a nice help...
I honestly always kind of thought it was an overrated item.
This hurts Veigar, which I really don't want to happen. The only champion I had a problem with when they had this item was Leblanc.
Riot said that Veigar especially will be getting alot of compensation for the removal of this item, dont worry! :)
Yeah I just crushed a Veigar the other game, and it seemed like he could never get kills even when he catches someone out in his stun.
So now it's really hard to reach 1000ap
Agreed. Practically every champ that uses this item is annoying as hell right now. See:

I just hope the few champions who actually need this item, and aren't super annoying, get some compensatory buffs.
hue
Problem solved.
same
Hahaha