Why I think Zed is an Unhealthy Assassin

SeargentAnus·2/23/2016, 6:26:35 PM·81 votes·7,627 views

Zed is considered by Riot and for a while most of the community as a healthy assassin with a lot of counterplay while also having a lot of pick potential. I used to also think like this before I began to think on the role of Assassins, and how they should be operating in a game such as league of legends. I personally think Khazix is the healthiest assassin in the game, but I'll get to that later.

Zed is an odd champion because he has very clear early game dominance, but all of this is loaded into one ability his Q. The good and bad Zed players are defined by how often they can hit their Q (and how good they are at using shadows to dodge). This is because his Q is simply all of the damage in his kit. His ult comes down to "Can I hit my double Q on the enemy and one AA?" His waveclear begins to become ridiculous around lvl 7 (on par with champions such as Velkoz or Viktor).

Basically Zed does a few things really well 1) His double Q chunks for around 35-45% of an enemies HP in lane phase 2) His W allows him to zone opponents for the 4 seconds it is up. 3) His shadow also allows him great mobility around the map. 4) He has some of the best waveclear out of the assassin class.

This is where the issue begins to show up. Zed does a little bit of everything. He's good in teamfights due to the damage on his Q. He's good at picking off targets due to his passive and Ult. His shadows allow him mobility around the battlefield. He doesn't seem to fall on the large design of what assassins are supposed to be 1) Punishing teams with bad team fight control 2) Punishing teams for lack of warding 3) Punishing players for positioning errors outside of teamfights. He instead feels like he is an AD mage that is melee while also having the benefits of the Assassin.

I think Khazix is the healthiest assassin because he fits the role of an assassin perfectly. He looks for a chance to get on the enemies back line and punish them with his isolation mechanic. Outside of teamfights he shines by using his ult to get past common ward locations, and getting kills on unsuspecting enemies. Basically if assassin itemization was better he'd be in a near perfect spot.

What I'd like to see on Zed is for Riot to encourage his pick potential while tuning back his early game power and teamfight power. To do this his energy costs would need to go up (perhaps 65 energy on his Q at all ranks) but his energy refund would need to go up (reward good zed players). Refund energy upon kills. Reduce his shadow duration to 2.5 seconds, but decrease the CD upon receiving a kill. Basically you want to make Zed into a high mobility assassin with high damage if he is allowed on the backline, but cause him to have a smaller window to engage. Have a less oppressive early game (without nerfing his damage) while gaining late game pick potential.

Edit: I think some of you guys are confused. This isn't a Zed is OP post and Kha'zix is balanced post. I think Kha'zix is slightly underpowered and Zed is balanced stat wise. This is a stance on design philosophy not balance. When I say unhealthy I'm saying that their design is counterproductive to what league should be striving for. Healthy being the opposite (what they should be striving for).

108 Comments

Original Quitter2/23/2016, 7:28:21 PM39 votes

Zed needs his wave clear NERFED.

it is absolutely ridiculous that he can out push every single champion in the game and is resourceless.

I don't have a problem with his damage, but I do have a problem with Zed at lvl 3 being able to clear a wave faster and safer than any other champ in the game. He either can out right kill you AND out farm you, or if they are bad, the best you can do is push them under tower.

You can't deny him CS cause he just shawdow spams the entire minion wave and it dies, you can't really deny him CS under tower because he can clear the wave in 1 rotation and be back to full resource before the next one arrives.

He also gains damage in his auto attack making him able to push the wave and your tower faster than any other mid laner. He needs to just deal 50% dmg to minions on everything except his auto attack, he can keep his full damage to monsters but the free and constant wave clear on him from lvl 3+ is not cool.

Seriously nerf this guys ability to clear waves and he will be very well balanced as he has nice damgage, good escapes, but can be CC'd and shut down and mostly out ranged by mages. It's not his kit or his damage that makes him so hated, it's the fact you can not punish him for poor play.

MorganFreemanBot2/23/2016, 8:40:58 PM13 votes

Zed is, at a kit level, far and away the healthiest and most balanced assassin this game has ever seen.

He has outplay potential on every single part of his kit other than his auto attacks (no one has it here) and his passive (applied via autos). There are numerous items which offer much stronger counter-play options against him than other assassins, he has very high positional requirements, and is frankly the easiest assassin to escape from / kill in most scenarios due to how many things he has to juggle and get right in order to be truly impressive.

When you're against Zed you basically always have a chance, even during his strong lane phase. Compare that to the likes Akali who simply asks "Do I have enough damage and am I level 6? Excellent! Time to be an unpeelable and stealthy burst monster!", Leblance "Am I 6? Do I have the stats? Excellent! Time to become a point-and-click burst monster with 2 dashes I can use multiple times!", and Talon / Kat who are.. Again, simply stat checks and point > click delete in about 1.5 seconds. A lot of this stems from his ultimate, which takes 3 seconds to 'detonate' and provides ample opportunity to escape his clutches, Zhonyas, dispel, shield, or other options.

AMYS GRAVE2/23/2016, 7:46:07 PM10 votes

Zed's passive no longer works on minions.

He actually has to try to last hit.

Means that bad zeds dont get farm.

Now Zed is strong when in good hands but is no longer the low elo stomper.

Kieferr2/23/2016, 10:09:51 PM9 votes

Lemme fix that for you: Zed is unhealthy because... here let me list all of his strengths and what he's good at while ignoring his many weaknesses. Khazix is healthy solely based on the fact that he sucks right now.

Blatant anti-assassin bias at its best. "Sucks = healthy".

Mael bro2/23/2016, 11:01:47 PM6 votes

OP, have you ever played against a Khazix before his nerfs? Back when Khazix was played mid? If you haven't you don't know what you're talking about. As broken as Zed is , he gets a guaranteed kill from lvl 6 everytime his ult is off cooldown. Kha'Zix would do that everytime you steped away from your minion wave.

Kuroi862/23/2016, 9:17:03 PM3 votes

While Zed IS in the upper regions of balance and would survive some nerfs, I'd hardly say he needs them, and he's far from unhealthy.

And lets be honest, Khazix has been knee capped so hard calling him balanced is a plain joke.

Zeds big strength is his laning phase. Once team fights start, he starts to fall off SLIGHTLY, due to his AoE not being the largest. I'd honestly argue that Katarina and Talon are better team fight assassins given their AoE, obviously this requires the right team comp though.

N00B PWN3R2/23/2016, 8:49:44 PM2 votes

HAHAHAHAHA, Khazix most healthy Assassin xD 1 point and click 3 sec CD Q = 60% of targets hp gone, such healthy, such counterplay.

Thank god I only have diamond players in my friendlist, these boards make me laugh and cringe so hard.

z63XnLCMwX2/23/2016, 7:32:59 PM2 votes

Zed is a high skill cap champion and high skill floor champion as well. Good Zed are extremely frustrating to play against but bad Zed are the easiest to stomp. The only reason why Riot isn't nerfing Zed because his huge fanboy base wanting to be an edgy ninja while sucking so hard that they drastically drop his win rate from the proficient Zeds. That said, I rather have a Zed on the enemy team than mine because chances are they suck.